Hi,

Right. So, to recap: those who are objecting have never used a credit/debit
card to buy stuff or get cash out the wall?

What seems to be being suggested by some members of the community here, is
that it's physically possible to achieve certain everything we wish to do
in the technological world by using only free software, including on the
web and for banking transactions. Yet it also seems like nobody is able to
suggest a viable free alternative to indiGoGo as a fundraiser platform:
Curious, that. :D

Do those objecting to this recognise that Builder needs a fundraising
platform and for the project fundraiser page to to be promoted for the
fundraiser to be successful in achieving it's aims (i.e. to pay the people
who are currently working on it full time and are currently out-of-pocket)?
If not I have to urge people who are unsure of this, to seriously consider
the great sacrifice that Christian is making to work on this project full
time - A project which specifically seeks to be beneficial to the community
of developers and contributors at GNOME in this because seriously: IndiGoGo
is not going to give a crap whether Builder's banner is on GNOME's site or
not. Let's not cut off our noses to spite our faces here.

With all that said, perhaps as a sort of "compromise" Christian could also
think about publishing a bitcoin address on the indigogo page, so that
those who are used to making transactions and are offended by the idea of
indigogo are able to donate with this way instead.

In any case +1 the indigogo banner idea. Moreover, I hope this is just the
start: Personally, I would like to the community engage in this sort of
innovative fundraising effort, as a "thing".

Happy 2015

Magdalen

On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna <s...@ramkrishna.me> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 5:29 AM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanz...@gnome.org>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Igor Gnatenko <ignate...@gnome.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > What nonfree software is needed? I think I don't have nonfree software,
> but
> > I donated without problems.
> >
> > He doesn't like obfuscated JavaScript:
> > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html
> >
> > Let's not let that hold us back from supporting a very important free
> > software project....
>
> Completely agree.  Especially considering that RMS has not provided
> any reasonable alternatives other than to find them.  Short of
> shunting them directly into a specialized foundation bank account and
> creating extra work for Zana and Kat that is already a full time job I
> don't see any other immediate method.  We also risk muddying the
> waters with alternatives and no longer creating an effective campaign.
> I think in the end, Free Software loses more than it gains and we
> create more stress for everyone to boot.  It's not worth the human
> cost.
>
> Please feel free to add the banner if there is a general consensus
> from Foundation members that this is the right thing to do.
>
> sri
>
>
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