Given the program really have outgrown into something that OPW is no longer GNOME specific and the administrative burden the program have become for the foundation I do think splinting out the program something that should be considered.
I know an organization [1] that have administrative and legal expertise, maybe they would be interested in govern the program? 1 https://sfconservancy.org/overview/ On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova <kittykat3...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 06/08/2014, Máirín Duffy <du...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: >> >> On 08/06/2014 11:57 AM, Ryan Lortie wrote: >>> I was disappointed (but not completely surprised) to learn that, >>> although OPW has expanded to many projects beyond GNOME, GNOME is left >>> handling all of the money for all participants at all organisations. >>> This hasn't only exposed us to substantial financial risks; it has >>> caused actual financial problems for the project. This year, GNOME >>> temporarily ceased funding of hackfests in order to recover from the >>> cashflow problems caused by the size of OPW. >> >> I'm sensing a general lack of information in your post (which should >> absolutely be provided to you) about the program and its affect on GNOME >> and its finances, so I thought it would be worth pointing out that GNOME >> does charge a per-intern administrative fee to each non-GNOME project >> participating in OPW. So GNOME is far from taking on this extremely >> helpful and beneficial work without compensation. > > GNOME incurs a large amount of banking fees associated with the > program and it takes up a considerable amount of our administrative > assistant's time, which is covered by the administrative fee. > Nonetheless, there is a limited amount of administrative time > available, which has meant that the board and other Foundation members > have had to take on unpaid administrative work to keep the Foundation > afloat. If this had not been done, I dread to think whether GUADEC > would have been the same. > > Regardless, Ryan is correct that poor management of OPW finances has > resulted in financial difficulties for the Foundation. To expand on > what he wrote, funding for two separate events was outright rejected, > which resulted in one event being cancelled. Many Foundation members > also had their reimbursements delayed by over two months. Luckily, > those individuals were very supportive and were kind enough to work > with the board to ensure that those who needed reimbursements fastest > were the first to receive them. > >>> I also came to appreciate during conversations at GUADEC the amount of >>> time which members of the engagement team, the board, and others are >>> spending fighting against harmful and distracting messaging from various >>> corners of the net, and how much OPW has become involved in some of the >>> stranger criticisms being leveled toward us. It's no secret that OPW is >>> controversial, even within the project. I feel at the very least, it is >>> a distraction from what should be our core goals. >> >> Do you understand that the many -isms that negatively impact GNOME and >> open source in general do not disappear when you sweep them under the >> rug? These are not problems that can just be washed away from >> disengaging OPW from GNOME. >> >>> I think that the time has come to split OPW out from the GNOME >>> foundation. >> >> I can't resist saying this: >> >> I think GNOME has a lot of problems, and OPW is most certainly NOT one >> of them. >> >> ~m >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-list mailing list >> foundation-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list >> > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list -- -mvh Oliver Propst _______________________________________________ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
