Check the page history - I don't think those bits were added by the foundation. On Jan 4, 2012 3:26 PM, "WereSpielChequers" <werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Re Tom's suggestion that we have an RFC on meta to discuss what we are and > aren't prepared to do when fundraising; We already have a discussion at > Meta > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Draft_Guiding_principles_with_regards_to_fundraising > . > Funny thing is that debate has almost been the mirror of here with the > Foundation proposing things like "Fundraising in line with our mission and > values: Our fundraising activities should aim to raise a movement budget > using only methods that strengthen our mission and values and communicate > them to all of our users and the world" and even "All Wikimedia fundraising > activities should be truthful with prospective donors." > > May I suggest that we revive that overly quiet discussion? > > WSC > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 17:28:39 +0000 > > From: Tom Morris <t...@tommorris.org> > > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Blink tag jokes are now obsolete. > > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > > <foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > > Message-ID: > > < > caaqb2s-nypp7attk8aq6q2o9bgc3hcfk5+hxyya4b1ossmb...@mail.gmail.com > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 14:50, Stephen Bain <stephen.b...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Fabricating a sense of urgency that donations are immediately > > > necessary at the end of the campaign to keep the projects operational > > > and freely available (ie, "Please help Wikipedia pay its bills in > > > 2012" [1], "Last day to make a tax-deductible contribution to keep > > > Wikipedia free in 2012" [2], etc) is as unethical now as it was in > > > last year's campaign ("Please donate to keep Wikipedia free" in the > > > banner you linked to [3], etc). > > > > > > This discussion about blinking banners might seem trivial but it > > > serves as a very obvious reminder, in style now as well as substance, > > > of the disjoint between the fundraising team's work and the norms and > > > ethos of the community and projects. > > > > > > > Would it be an idea to have some kind of RfC or something like that on > > Meta where community members could come up with a list of things we > > roughly agree are the limits for fundraising. > > > > I think the fundraising team have done really well, but there have > > been a few things we really need to fix for next year, starting with > > the limits that the community are comfortable with regarding banner > > length, tone, graphical style etc. > > > > The other thing I think we really need to fix before next year is > > making clear to OTRS volunteers exactly what the right channels and > > actions are to handle fundraiser-related emails. And maybe it would be > > useful if we could go through fundraiser-related emails in OTRS and > > somehow tag the feedback into categories (perhaps on OTRS Wiki) and > > then give back to the community some statistics about how many > > complaints and emails we have had about fundraising and what the > > nature of those complaints and emails are so the Foundation and > > community can better tune the banners and fundraising for next year. > > > > On a subjective level, there's lots of things I've seen in e-mail from > > people: they would like to buy a t-shirt rather than donate (the > > Foundation really need to sort out merchandise - other similar > > non-profits like Mozilla Foundation, Creative Commons and so on have > > really nailed merchandise), they want SMS donations in various > > European countries, they want it so that if they've donated it removes > > the banner for the rest of the fundraiser. > > > > -- > > Tom Morris > > <http://tommorris.org/> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
