On 10/25/2011 2:57 PM, foundation-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: > You've made quite a few incorrect assumptions there. > > Of course Commons editors should be deciding which images are PD. But > when there is a dispute, it makes no sense for people who don't even > know what a derivative work and an underlying work are, to be > discussing the applicable law. > > Anyway, the deletion process obviously doesn't work. File:"Appreciate > America. Come On Gang. All Out for Uncle Sam" (Mickey Mouse)" - NARA - > 513869.tif is clearly not public domain. And File:"Appreciate > America. Come On Gang. All Out for Uncle Sam" (Mickey Mouse)" - NARA - > 513869 - cropped and tidied.png is probably a copyvio. Yet both > remain, despite deletion discussions, marked as public domain. (The > deletion discussion over the latter is especially humorous.) It is fair use - here's my 2 cents worth on why.
The purpose of this image was the sale of war bonds - not the display of a character whose image is owned by the Walt Disney Company. As a piece of history it is NOT a derivative use of Mickey Mouse. If someone were to remove the mouse image from context and try to pawn it off as being ok to use in unrelated creations, they would probably be sued - because that might be a derivative use. NARA has many images of war bonds collateral and all were commissioned by or for the U.S. government - which means they are public domain unless otherwise specified. Walt Disney gave up control of this image in this context for the public good, as did everyone in the entertainment industry. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_home_front_during_World_War_II#Propaganda_and_culture _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l