On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:14 AM, James Alexander <jameso...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm not sure I would say it like that (that they would simply stop > responding at all) but I worry that the method at which discussion > and criticism has developed is encouraging the growth of a culture where > goes against the very thing we say we vocally fighting for. This > is definitely not just a foundation-l thing and you're right to say it like > that is a bit of a red herring and ignores the real issue... It is also > something that I think has roots in all of the active > aspects of the community.
James, this was a good post. We do need a more active focus on kindness, effective skepticism, and constructive criticism. And I agree that the problem being expressed here (not MZM's comment about transparency, which is valid and should be considered separately) -- the universal trouble with people attacking one another and making public spaces feel unsafe -- affects many parts of the community. The fact that we associate "active Wikipedia work" on en:wp with AN/I is indicative of the trend. That noticeboard is hardly relevant to the work of most editors, lingering on conflicts of various sorts. > So frequently whenever someone opens their mouth they get bitten, regardless > of what is happening the tenants of assuming good faith are just thrown out > the window. This is where not having safe spaces to discuss what's going on limits transparency... > Maybe this is how I work but I feel like we want a culture where it is > perfectly acceptable for someone to respond without all the data, for them > to make mistakes and get corrected and have that debate and those arguments. So do I. -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
