On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:16 PM, geni <geni...@gmail.com> wrote: > Or not. > > Okey so it happened that the thing was taking place at a time > reasonable for my timezone. So I check > http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Task_force/Living_People/IRC_Agendas > > So there hasn't been an agenda in months. Fair enough agendas can be a > pain. Hey how hard can it be to wing it?
You're confusing the agendas of a Task Force to the office hours of the strategy process as a whole. As stated at: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_Office_Hours the goals of these office hours are to answer questions and engage in discussion. These are not formal meetings, but a designated period where Philippe and I make ourselves available to interact with people in real-time. We keep the agenda open, but at the same time, we also do our best to keep the discussion relevant. And, as with the strategy process as a whole, we've worked hard to maintain an environment of constructive, positive discourse. > Personally I think it's a bad idea to sacrifice screen real estate on > order to solve the odd TR:DR problem. So I make this clear. I'm told > that this is related to having a deadline. I start to make the case > that perhaps things are getting a little too meta. I also make the > case that a tool that is based around removing context and nuance form > posts is a bad idea. I start to make the case that if there is a > deadline to meet it is better to work out how to do it using > technology we already know well (remember no one was considering > adding reflect to say en.pedia) rather than trying to introduce new > technology and hope it will allow us to do things faster to the extent > it makes up for the time lost deploying it and learning how to use it. > But at that point I was kinda banned. The decision to kick geniice off the channel was mine. You can read the log to see how the discussion evolved and my explanation for why I made this decision: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/2010-06-01 I don't think foundation-l is the appropriate place to discuss these specific grievances, and I'm happy to continue this discussion on strategy wiki's Village Pump. That said, I think we have a strong record for openness and tolerance of all views, as long as the discussion has remained polite and constructive, and I'm happy to address any general questions about this here. =Eugene -- ====================================================================== Eugene Eric Kim ................................ http://xri.net/=eekim Blue Oxen Associates ........................ http://www.blueoxen.com/ ====================================================================== _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
