On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:24 AM, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote:
> > Most of the egregiously bad deletions were quickly overturned, and Jimmy > was > the one re-deleting the images. Now that he has agreed to stop, most of the > poor deletions have been re-reversed. I doubt Jimmy approves; there's > absolutely nothing in his actions over the past few days to suggest that he > does. > I think you do Jimmy a disservice if you think he did not anticipate precisely this result. > > To the extent that Jimmy's intervention has triggered a healthy debate > about > > policy, I think the powers he used, and the decisions -- not individually > > but taken as a whole -- that he made are justified. > > Huh. I never thought I'd see the day that Mike Godwin would be supporting > an > attack on free speech and free ideas through censorship. You're misunderstanding what I wrote here. The words "not individually" were chosen for a reason. Let me put it this way -- sometimes a police officer has to use physical force to stop further violence from having. If you inferred from this statement that that I favor police intervention as a first resort, or that I favor physical force, you would properly be criticized as misrepresenting my views. Similarly, I don't favor "attacks on free speech" -- but like Nat Hentoff and other free-speech theorists, I recognize that free speech depends on active intervention and rule-making sometimes. I know you are trying to be provocative, but what you write here suggests that you don't actually understand much of the nuance of free-speech principles. > I don't say > "censorship," lightly: Jimmy deliberately deleted historical pieces of art > and illustrations in his rampage. And you think this is a good thing? > No. Mike, it looks like you've compromised your ideals in favor of toeing the > party line, and for that, I'm pretty disappointed. > It is inconceivable to me that you have ever not been disappointed in me. I'm familiar with your other writings, after all. It is your nature to be disappointed. --Mike _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
