On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:23 AM, K. Peachey <p858sn...@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:39 AM, John Vandenberg <jay...@gmail.com> wrote: >> iirc, there is already a mediawiki capability for images to be >> completely removed from the servers. >> >> I can't see this capability in the sysop tools, so maybe I only imagined it. >> >> Is that capability still available? Which users have access to it? >> >> If it is part of the software, I think oversighters should have access to it.
> That was rewritten ages ago to allow the files to be kept and > undeleted and need be (so in theory they are now only removed from > accessible part of the software, not the file system), they would need > to be kept and not destroyed if they were brought you in > court/criminal proceedings because they would become evidence. It's possible for system administrators to delete files entirely from the servers for legal reasons, but because it is quite labour-intensive, I for one have only ever performed such a deletion when it is real child pornography (hint: a 16-year-old masturbating is not "real" child pornography, and is in fact legal, though explicit, in New South Wales, Australia). We don't really want to be handling any more than a request or two each week/month under this system, and it's done mostly in the interest of taste – the images that I've had to delete have made me extremely uncomfortable, and deleting them is mostly about protecting innocent snooping administrators from seeing them. If there are legal issues involved, they should be discussed directly with our General Counsel, and not speculated about by volunteers who may lack the requisite legal expertise to make a decision on the Foundation's behalf. The community should be discussing editorial and administrative reasons for dealing with these images, not legal ones. -- Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org http://werdn.us/ Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
