From what I see, the HTML5 everything push is ending - mostly because of performance issues on the native app side. HTML5 is still taking over for flash in the desktop/laptop web space for most things, though even there, folks are starting to loudly express dissatisfaction with platform fragmentation, and other problems. This transition has been ongoing for many years now. Mr. Zuckerberg also pointed out that they get more traffic through the mobile website than they get through their native apps, so even on mobile HTML5 still matters (it's just usually less of an app experience, and more of a webpage experience).

Today, for native apps we need to either go all in with native toolkits, or target good middleware like Unity3D or AIR. I think we can still target both worlds (browsers and apps) from one author environment, but in native apps the name of the game is performance (even on desktops). Flex/Actionscript/HaXe needs to rival Cocoa/Obj-C and Android/Java to be compelling. That's the starting point for Flex, then if we can have a high performing HTML5 target as well, that's a strong multi-platform story. (This is area where Adobe leans too much on legacy in their narratives, rather than deferring to the future. Even their gaming narrative they only fumble into "expanding gaming markets" as an aspirational note - their narratives are mostly about leveraging their ubiquitous and sizable Flash install base - coasting on the legacy. Boring! Technology is about the future and possibility.)

What I imagine is that Flex could be used to create something cool like Trello.com (as just a random example) but then target both platforms with much of the same code base, rather than they way they do it now with, HTML5 (and Coffeescript) for the web (which frankly doesn't run well - or often at all in my experience - on mobile browsers) and native apps for each platform (they only have iOS for now, I'd guess due to the resources it would take to target everything).

Just as another random thought, it might be cool to be able to more easily utilize native APIs than you can through AIR's ANE mechanism. Since HaXe compiles into other languages first, it has access to the libraries of those languages directly (like compiling to C++ for iOS), externs can be added for all kind of access to native APIs. Using that part of HaXe, the idea that's been floated about doing an MVC system in Flex, where the View part is done in the native language (JavaScript, Java, C#, Obj-C/C/C++, etc.) might actually be easier through haXe than other language platforms. There are a bunch of externs out there already for various platforms (don't know how stable or complete they all are though).

Kevin N.

(You could technically do that externs trick with ANEs and some tweaks to AIR from Adobe - but they aren't interested.)

On 11/21/12 7:07 AM, Hordur Thordarson wrote:
this HTML5 for everything push.

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