Hans, Can you please create a JIRA ticket with your "functionality" remarks (below)? I will start work on this soon after the release of v 1.0, and having this all at hand in JIRA will help me a lot.
Thanks, EdB > Here is what I found for the functionality: > - The name of the application looks kinda weird: "InstallApacheFlex". Can't > we just change this to "Apache Flex Installer", and maybe even put it default > in a "Apache Flex" folder (since I think this is only a until, and not really > a very important standalone application). > - The disclaimer button does not perform any action, it is just a link to the > disclaimer. So I believe from a usability viewing point, this should be a > LinkButton instead of a Button, right? > - I think the "SHOW LOG" button should not be inside the application, but > rather be a NativeMenuItem. > - For the licenses, is it really necessary to agree on all of them > separately? (I think this has been discussed before, but I thought I'd just > mention it in case it wasn't). > > Also, the design does indeed need to be cleaned up a little bit (the buttons > don't always rescale -- for instance when you switch to Dutch, the "Install" > button says "Install…" because the button's label isn't rescaling). > If I find the time I will try to have a look at it more and discuss it. > > I hope I didn't repeat anything that what was said before too much. > > H. > > Hans Van den Keybus | dotdotcommadot.com > Mail: h...@dotdotcommadot.com > Phone: 0032 (0) 486 16 30 69 > > On 20-okt.-2012, at 02:37, Stefan Horochovec <stefan.horocho...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Well >> >> You can see this video, I'm recording to show how the bug happen >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AlmwX75RqM >> >> >> Stefan Horochovec >> >> >> >> 2012/10/19 Stefan Horochovec <stefan.horocho...@gmail.com> >> >>> Alex >>> >>> What AIR version you are running? >>> >>> >>> Stefan Horochovec >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2012/10/19 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> >>> >>>> Changing vote to -1 because of locale issue. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/19/12 8:05 AM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm not going to change my vote at this point, but consider these >>>> points: >>>>> >>>>> 1) Why would doing a point release right after be less work and get more >>>>> involvement? >>>>> 2) Why do we think we will get two other mentor/IPMC votes if they >>>> review >>>>> the dev-list and see this issue? >>>>> 3) Why do we think we will get mentor/IPMC attention again right away >>>> with a >>>>> follow-up point release >>>>> 4) I have seen this issue twice in English, but wasn't able to >>>> reproduce it. >>>>> 5) I would rather the next installer release coincide with a new Apache >>>> Flex >>>>> SDK release like a 4.8.1 in a month or so from now. >>>>> >>>>> To me, 7 RC's is not a lot. Sometimes, important bugs get found late >>>> in the >>>>> game. Sure, it is frustrating, but you will certainly get enough PPMC >>>> votes >>>>> on an RC8. However, right now we are waiting on getting IPMC votes and >>>> I >>>>> don't know why they would vote just to get something out the door if it >>>>> isn't handling strings properly. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 10/19/12 5:51 AM, "Stefan Horochovec" <stefan.horocho...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello everybody, >>>>>> >>>>>> The installer works, as I spent the walkthrough in JIRA and in my last >>>>>> email, that information may be contained on the page to access the >>>>>> Installer. >>>>>> >>>>>> I upgraded my vote to -1 because I have found a bug. I shared the same >>>>>> opinion of Christophe Herreman, it´s my opinion too. Where he said: >>>>>> >>>>>> "I'm not trying to be negative. I'm just worried that this will lead to >>>>>> frustration and a feeling of low quality coming from Apache Flex to the >>>>>> users." >>>>>> >>>>>> But I also agree with you that we need this release which is being >>>> awaited >>>>>> for so long, and for sure will help many people to have the new Apache >>>> Flex >>>>>> SDK. >>>>>> >>>>>> Erik and Om >>>>>> >>>>>> I opened a ticket [1] in JIRA with the comparison of the translations >>>> of >>>>>> languages available today, and put them separate group with all the >>>>>> messages. I would suggest this as the default for new messages, to >>>> make it >>>>>> easier to find what should be done the translation, because when you >>>> add a >>>>>> new key, you can already tag them in an area of translation for each >>>>>> language. The work of comparing one by one consuming too much time. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33224 >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Stefan Horochovec >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2012/10/19 Christophe Herreman <christophe.herre...@gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>>> OK all, thanks for the feedback. I agree that we need to release >>>> often and >>>>>>> early, although in certain cases it doesn't feel quite right. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Since there are no blocking issues, a release is justified I guess. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 (binding) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>> Christophe >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2012/10/19 Om <bigosma...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This issue will be fixed in the next release. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know and agree that this is not perfect, but we cannot delay a >>>> release >>>>>>>> till we get everything perfect. We will never release anything if we >>>>>>> wait >>>>>>>> to fix every issue that we discover. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is not a release blocker issue, nor does it have security >>>>>>>> implications. We cannot delay the release any longer especially >>>> after so >>>>>>>> many people have voted for the release. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The patch has been contributed and it will be committed asap. We >>>> will be >>>>>>>> making a follow up release soon. Also, we are shipping with an auto >>>>>>> update >>>>>>>> mechanism that will ensure that folks get the subsequent releases for >>>>>>> sure. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Om >>>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2012 1:57 AM, "Christophe Herreman" < >>>>>>>> christophe.herre...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sorry about this, but why would you release the installer in it's >>>>>>> current >>>>>>>>> state? I know there is a lot of "pressure" and excitement to get >>>> this >>>>>>>>> released, but there are currently clearly some bigger issues with >>>> the >>>>>>>>> proposed RC in terms of translations. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> IMO it's better to delay the release until the most serious issues >>>> are >>>>>>>>> fixed than to release now, knowing that it will cause problems for >>>>>>>> (perhaps >>>>>>>>> a minor part of ) the users. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm not trying to be negative. I'm just worried that this will lead >>>> to >>>>>>>>> frustration and a feeling of low quality coming from Apache Flex to >>>> the >>>>>>>>> users. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> kind regards, >>>>>>>>> Christophe >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2012/10/19 Carlos Rovira <carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes...please, release.... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2012/10/19 Omar Gonzalez <omarg.develo...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>>>> Release, release, release!!! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -omar >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 18, 2012, Erik de Bruin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Stefan, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I understand the problem, and I see the implications. That's why >>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>> push for a quick "point" update AFTER this release, to adress >>>> this >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> other known issues. In fact, I'll enter your fix into the source >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>> weekend, if it checks out. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> However, I sense that after 7 (!) release candidates, a kind of >>>>>>>> 'vote >>>>>>>>>>>> fatigue' is setting in. By this I mean that if we do another RC, >>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>> think we might not get enough votes just because people will not >>>>>>>>>>>> bother to enter theirs again (and again, and again). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I therefor recommend that we use the votes we now have to do a >>>>>>>>> release. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> EdB >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Stefan Horochovec >>>>>>>>>>>> <stefan.horocho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Erik >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's possible to run the installer in operating systems that >>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>> language >>>>>>>>>>>>> available on Installer and that is different from en_US, >>>>>>> however, >>>>>>>>>> have to >>>>>>>>>>>>> be done the process of changing the language of the installer >>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> en_US. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you try to install and don't change the language to en_US, >>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> installation dont work. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Log of installation (sorry, in portuguese): >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Buscado o espelho da URL de download do SDK a partir do CGI. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Criando diretório do Apache Flex >>>>>>>>>>>>> Criando diretório temporário >>>>>>>>>>>>> Não foi possível criar o diretório temporário >>>>>>>>>>>>> Instalação abortada >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And here you can see the steps: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 - >>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549807/step1.png >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 - >>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549808/step2.png >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 - >>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549809/step3.png >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 - >>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549810/step4.png >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion, this is a very critical problem, a time may come >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>> affect >>>>>>>>>>>>> a large number of people. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stefan Horochovec >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/10/19 Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stefan, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your contribution! As we discussed, I'll look >>>>>>> into >>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>>> patches as soon as I can, and I'm sure they will prove valid >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you agree that if we do an update soon, lack of true >>>>>>>>>>>>>> internationalisation shouldn't be a deal breaker for this first >>>>>>>>>>>>>> release? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EdB >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Stefan Horochovec >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <stefan.horocho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My first test was done in an environment in English, but >>>>>>> when I >>>>>>>>>>>> changed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS to my local language (Portuguese), to test the >>>>>>> translations, >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> result >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was not good. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In step where are defined which license will be accepted, >>>>>>> just >>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>> option >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the left appears only when the switch is made the selected >>>>>>>>>> language. >>>>>>>>>>>> Ex: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change to english, and then go back to my default language. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I submitted the bug in JIRA, and also submitted a patch >>>>>>> (which >>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>>>> accepted) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> causes the installer to load the translation of default >>>>>>>> language >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installer and then load the installation user's language, so >>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some text missing will interface with all texts, some not >>>>>>>>>> translated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This whole environment is only valid when the Installer is >>>>>>>>> launched >>>>>>>>>>>> on an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operating system that contains a translation and the same is >>>>>>>>>> detected >>>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the installer before being read keys for translation into >>>>>>>>> English. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33223 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stefan Horochovec >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/10/18 Om <bigosma...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds good. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will wait one more day for Dave Fisher to vote here. >>>>>>> After >>>>>>>>>> that I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> post the vote thread on general. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Om >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Carol Frampton < >>>>>>>>>> cfram...@adobe.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira >>>>>>>>>> Director de Tecnología >>>>>>>>>> M: +34 607 22 60 05 >>>>>>>>>> F: +34 912 35 57 77 >>>>>>>>>> http://www.codeoscopic.com >>>>>>>>>> http://www.directwriter.es >>>>>>>>>> http://www.avant2.es >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Christophe Herreman >>>>>>>>> http://www.herrodius.com >>>>>>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org >>>>>>>>> http://www.as3commons.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Christophe Herreman >>>>>>> http://www.herrodius.com >>>>>>> http://www.springactionscript.org >>>>>>> http://www.as3commons.org >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Alex Harui >>>> Flex SDK Team >>>> Adobe Systems, Inc. >>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui >>>> >>>> >>> > -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl
