Sorry for sharing my frustration, but i'm really trying to be constructive in the sens that i'm trying to get clear informations of the state of the framework, regarding, a multi target future. I was not talking about Adobe here, i was saying that, in the context of Alex talking about starting a new framework from scratch. I am not complaining about how the things are today, but about the lack of visibility of what is possible, and what is not for the future, about what is the state of discusison among commiters about such a subject etc.

"discussing (on various threads and other media, like conferences) that best approach to do that." I'm happy to know that there are active discussions about it. But i'm sorry, i try to follow the ML since a few month, and i did not saw much about such deep discussions regarding a mutli target future. If it was the case, i would not be frustated (even if no definitive answer has been found yet) Instead i see other frustrated readers talking about "Apache model killing the project", "ghost town", "need of a roadmap"...

Can you please give us a feedback of those conferences? Can you just give a quick update of the state of discussions and thoughts? and do you have any advise to help us keep track of those discussions, if the ML is not the right place?

For now, to be constructive, i'm trying to understand:
- What is the current vision of commiters regarding the future of flex, and the multi target possibilities? Thanks a lot to Alex to have shared a detailed explaination of his current toughts. I'd also love to see commiters answer to the thread "What is the essence of Flex". - What does it imply for flex as a mobile multi target SDK if it does not run on next Adobe runtime in the short term? (it depends on Adobe's plan regarding AIR runtime in fact) - What is the amount of work required to get flex run on starling? Is it manageable task (for major update) or does it imply big rewrite of SDK?
- What is the list of dependancies that tie the SDk to flash platform?
- Is there a realistic future for actual flex in middle term to be still multi target, or is it such a mess that starting from scratch is the only realistic way?
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Le 22/10/2012 08:46, Erik de Bruin a écrit :
I feel that everything is going back in time. We're not talking about
abandoning an old technology, to get new modern and better one, we're
talking about abandoning a very efficient technology, with no alternative
with the same level of possibilities.
I can understand your frustration, but you're not talking to Adobe on
this list, you're talking to the contributors to Apache Flex. We
trying to find a way to take the framework forward and are discussing
(on various threads and other media, like conferences) that best
approach to do that.

Being constructive helps. Complaining that things are the way they are
doesn't. Please be constructive.

EdB




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