Hi Richard, Maybe it's not intentional, but your email sounds rather unpleasant and very confusing. What would you like to achieve?
Also, out of curiosity, did you see https://mail.coreboot.org/hyperkitty/list/flashrom@flashrom.org/message/65BNRWRTKLTMS7EDOGCN2NJYIFX5QXBV/ before writing your reply? Maybe you missed it. Perhaps you'd want to read it: the first paragraph contains information that seems to contradict some of your claims. It could be that we're talking past each other. On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 2:50 PM Richard Hughes <hughsi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 at 14:22, Nico Huber <nic...@gmx.de> wrote: > > Regressions can be much more severe though, and with the cur- > > rent development the story might look like: "sorry for the regression! > > you may have to acquire a hot-air soldering station now to fix your PC. > > I don't think that's true. The only people using flashrom at scale is > Google, Let's make sure we're on the same page, as misunderstandings have already costed the flashrom project way too much time and effort. Could you please explain what "at scale" means for you? > and they're quite certainly testing every flashrom version > with every firmware version with every hardware version before > deploying anything. Yes, Google most likely checks that flashrom works for *their* use-cases before deploying anything. > In the community the only people _really_ using > flashrom are the ones with SPI clips and screws already removed, if > we're being completely honest. Um, this is not true. There are people out there using flashrom on DOS to update their BIOS, and a significant number of users who come asking for help on IRC don't even know what a SPI clip is. Do you mean that these people are not _really_ using flashrom? Also... Doesn't fwupd use flashrom? Do all fwupd users have a SPI clip at hand, in case something goes wrong? It would be interesting to know how fwupd handles the possibility of device(s) no longer booting after a failed firmware update. > Normal people don't use flashrom in > production in any appreciable number. Hmmm, this seems to be another potential source of misunderstandings. What do you mean with "in production"? > > Because I've seen it burning out people (including > > myself) when one tries to clean up behind others, I argue against fixing > > bugs that other people introduced. > > But flashrom isn't your baby, it's not your responsibility. Advice > yes, being condescending no. Huh, why do you say so? Who do you think is responsible for flashrom, then? Whose responsibility is flashrom? > Richard. Best regards, Angel _______________________________________________ flashrom mailing list -- flashrom@flashrom.org To unsubscribe send an email to flashrom-le...@flashrom.org
