On 23.07.2017, at 09:27, Reimar Döffinger <reimar.doeffin...@gmx.de> wrote:

> On 21.07.2017, at 15:31, Ricardo Constantino <wiia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 18 July 2017 at 02:12, Gerion Entrup <gerion.entrup.ff...@flump.de> wrote:
>>> Am Dienstag, 18. Juli 2017, 01:52:53 CEST schrieb Reimar Döffinger:
>>>> On 18.07.2017, at 00:59, James Almer <jamr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/17/2017 7:49 PM, Moritz Barsnick wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 13:53:02 +0300, Boris Pek wrote:
>>>>>>> Latest news about this topic:
>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/net-dev/FKXe-76GO8Y
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ah, thanks, I neglected to report this, because I thought it was an
>>>>>> issue with my Opera Developer (48), which uses the Chrome engine. Opera
>>>>>> (like Chrome) recently reports ffmpeg.org's certificate as revoked, but
>>>>>> I found no tool which could verify this...
>>>>> 
>>>>> The cert is by StartCom. Afaik everyone blacklisted certs issued by them
>>>>> after a certain date, and now some, like Google, are also blacklisting
>>>>> certs issued before that date as well.
>>>>> Mozilla hasn't done the latter yet, so Firefox doesn't complain about
>>>>> it, but i guess a new cert is overdue.
>>>> 
>>>> New certs are already being generated, but nobody had the time to do the 
>>>> transition, there is a risk of the automation failing
>>>> (I think the web server needs to be made to reload the certificate, which 
>>>> is problematic as an ordinary user and there is no way I'd ever run any of 
>>>> that letsencrypt stuff as root),
>>> This seems to work as cronjob:
>>> ```
>>> #!/bin/sh
>>> 
>>> su -c "certbot renew 2>/dev/null | grep 'No renewals' >/dev/null" 
>>> letsencrypt -s /bin/bash
>>> if [ $? -eq 1 ]; then
>>>       service nginx reload
>>> fi
>>> ```
> 
> This is what scares me most: people running things as horrible as certbot 
> (written by people who think it is ok to download and install a compiler 
> without even asking before on a web server) AS ROOT.
> These things have no reason to and should not be designed to run as root.
> Anyway, the switch is done, but it might be good if at least one other person 
> monitors certificate validity, if it ever goes below 20 days something went 
> badly wrong.

Btw the comodo certificate Michael mentioned is a domain-validation certificate 
for 7x the price of what startcom asked for a personal validation certificate 
(which almost nobody else even offers, just for organizations).
That's the CA system in a nutshell: highway robbery prices spiced with the 
laughable security track record you get for it.
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