Le keskiviikkona 22. lokakuuta 2025, 16.07.36 Itä-Euroopan kesäaika Timo Rothenpieler via ffmpeg-devel a écrit : > C++ can be used as-is, since it can read all our headers just fine.
FFmpeg public headers are C++-compatible and, frankly as a C developer, I find that annoying. Not sure about Zig, but Rust does not care about your C headers and won't require C programmers to muck with their header files to appease rustc. Or more accurately, it gives you the choice to use or not to use bindgen to parse the C headers. And frankly, you are more often than not better off not using it. > Using anything else needs extensive and constant porting work, that then > will also make future iterations of internal APIs much harder if not > impossible, forcing people who have zero experience with the other > language to learn it, just to enhance the C side of things. > Plus, most of these fancy modern languages are not just a programming > language, but they also want to play package-manager, which then forces > all of its downstream users to babysit a ton of package version, which > largely don't give a damn about stable APIs. C++ sucks just as badly as Rust to make stable APIs/ABIs. In the end, you end up having to expose a C interface, whether you're using C, C++, Zig, Rust or anything else. And you'll have to do that forever, since C is the lingua franca of system-level programming interfaces. > So we then need to constantly monitor all those dependencies for bugs > and issues, and potentially a fix for one pulls in breaking API changes, > which then need to be addressed and backported. FUD much? How exactly do any other language relieve you from the problem of tracking bugs in dependencies? Cargo gives you the *choice* of pinning or not pinning the versions through the lock. FFmpeg should *probably* not pin anything and just specify minimum version requirements. And it'll be the exact same dependency hell that we already have (or don't have - that's subjective) with C. Nothing to see here. -- ヅニ-クーモン・レミ Villeneuve de Tapiola, ex-République finlandaise d´Uusimaa _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
