On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 9:24 PM Michael Niedermayer <mich...@niedermayer.cc> wrote: > > Hi Kieran > > On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 07:39:38PM +0000, Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel > wrote: > > > I remember such a IRC session before the libav fork. > > > It is very similar to this here > > > 4+ people, who simply accuse me of everything (on IRC though) > > > this serves no purpose. There is no common ground here > > > > Hi Michael, > > > > With Anton leaving the project because of you, Paul forking and James > > leaving the CC because of your behaviour of banning and censoring, > > have you ever considered the problem might be you? > > do you realize, that iam working on several proposals to improve > the governance of FFmpeg ? > to make it more robust, more fair and to give a larger set of the community a > voice in the GA ? > And that i intend to propose these to the GA for several votes. > Thats how a democracy works, propose something and let people choose. > Either way iam not done with this, and i dont want to rush it.
Just so I understand correctly, the person who censored and banned someone during an election is lecturing me on "how a democracy works"? > About Anton, i talked with him, what he wanted is that the GA as it > is, make the decission on changes. Thats what i intend to do. He was > not at all against having some vote for changes. > Maybe he still leaves, the environment is super toxic so i would not be > surprised > > About Paul, i talked with him through many mails over the last year > and really tried everything i could think of to convince him to return. > Trying to pin everything anyone does on me is very strange. It reminds > me of politics. "Whatever happens the other party is responsible" > > About james, he is still in FFmpeg, still in FFlabs, I hope still > in the new CC. And I hope he will stay. And ive talked with him too > of course. For Anton and Paul, those claims are demonstrably false from a simple browse of the ML. James resigned from the old and new CC because of your ban and censorship. > Also, have you considered that the problem is you and the people on "your > side" ? > Just what you (plural) did to thilo. You surely noticed he is not > posting much on the mailing list anymore. And also he is not in FFlabs > meetings > since a long time. The operations of FFlabs are internal and unrelated to this discussion. > Some people are spreading the story that thilo is stealing money. > similar with me, in these threads, all kinds of random invented accusations > > And many other people left over the years in relation to some aggression > from the very same people who attack thilo and me. > > So, iam sorry to be blunt, but as long as people here attack and accuse > everyone they dont like. The responsibility lies on their side. > > There really are 2 ways forward. We can move forward together or people > can fork/leave. > Its really that simple, do you (plural) want to be in the same project as > me ? Thats something you have to awnser. But you know I wont disappear > from these accusations. Its just a way to recruite more people for a fork > > The community does not want the project to split again. Why dont you > put the community above your personal ambitions ? The project is already split because of anti-democratic actions of banning and censorship (during an election). Suggesting I or anyone else is recruiting for a fork (Paul notwithstanding) is a defamatory accusation. Kieran > thx > > [...] > > -- > Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB > > it is not once nor twice but times without number that the same ideas make > their appearance in the world. -- Aristotle > _______________________________________________ > ffmpeg-devel mailing list > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org > https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel > > To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email > ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
