Hi On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 03:40:42PM -0300, James Almer wrote: > On 1/14/2025 2:06 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > Hi > > > > To come back to this, and iam not sure this is the best mail to reply > > to (i think there was a better one) > > but thres a glaring missconception, see below > > > > On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 04:38:07PM +0100, Niklas Haas wrote: > > > On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 15:17:31 +0100 Michael Niedermayer > > > <mich...@niedermayer.cc> wrote: > > [...] > > > > People will have shares proportional to their contribution to > > > > FFmpeg. > > > > > > Just to nitpick the terminology a bit: This would no longer be a > > > democracy, > > > but rather an oligarchy, since the vast majority of the voting shares > > > would be > > > held in a very small handful of people on account of the exponential > > > distribution of commit count per contributor. > > > > The FFmpeg community are at least 2263 People, that are the people "living > > on" > > FFmpeg devel. > > Where did you get that number? Because i don't see that many contributors on > this list, or on IRC, or in the last several years of commit history.
on https://lists.ffmpeg.org/mailman/admin/ffmpeg-devel/members in the center of the page: "2267 members total, 1 shown" > > > The same way as the people living in a country, if you define democracy as > > "everyone" to have an equal vote right irrespective of contribution then > > it is at least all these people > > > > The 49 people in the current general assembly are not a democracy. > > They are maybe an aristrocracy, maybe a oligarchy maybe something else, > > but it is not a democracy, because its simply not all the people as in, > > demos being people. > > The GA is a list of currently active contributors, not of every person that > committed a patch in the last quarter of a century or sent an email to this > ml. It is them who, in a community managed project, should have the last > word to where the project should go. And how are differences solved? By a > democratic vote where the majority wins. In the US only people who have paid their taxes, where emplooyed for 20 months in the last 3 years, didnt receive a speeding ticket, are married and not divorced go to church every sunday, have seperated the trash correctly. Excercise 2 times a week, pay their gym membership. have savings for their kids. eat at least 70% of their calories as plant based food and a variable list decided by thier city major and state governmnet, where your mask to not catch a virus, ... After they pass all that they are allowed to vote. That is called a democracy on top of that the general assembly of the US can also vote in their friends into the GA. and from that a community committee is elected yearly of 5 judges which behind closed doors and no record and no allowed defense, no trial, decides whatever it likes about whoever it liks. Also just this year the CC decided that its power will be expanded beyond interpersonal conflicts to control all finance of everyone. really ? thats a democracy ? you want that ? (i mean if you are not "inside" as in if whatever party you like less, is in charge of this) > > You're being incredibly dismissive of the people who are keeping the project > alive by giving them labels like the above. no, not the people. The people are FFmpeg, teh project would be nothing without the people. Iam dismissive about the political structure we created. thx [...] -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Any man who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust and willingly accepts the penalty by staying in jail in order to arouse the conscience of the community on the injustice of the law is at that moment expressing the very highest respect for law. - Martin Luther King Jr
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