Le 17 juin 2024 20:34:39 GMT+02:00, Michael Niedermayer 
<mich...@niedermayer.cc> a écrit :
>also if you look at google trends, even today more people search for ffserver
>than txproto. In fact at every point in time more people searched for ffserver
>than txproto.

Nobody looks at txproto since it's (AFAIK) a one-person experimental project 
that almost no one knows about. I don't think that metric has any relevance 
whatsoever, TBH.


>
>So even though ffserver is dead, removed and unmaintained, it has more
>users

It's easy to have more users than one. I'm sure even VLS that has been 
unmaintained for 20 years, give or take, has more users than txproto, by that 
questionable metric.

>
>And this comes back to what i said many times. We should use the name
>FFmpeg, our domain and NOT push every bit of new inovation out into
>sub projects.

It proves no such thing. And that goes against all common sense. Using FFmpeg 
branding and website is one thing; if the community agrees to it, why not. But 
tying different projects into a single git tree is just plain dumb.

Git is not designed to handle more than one release timeline for one thing, and 
you will need separate release timelines if you take up separate projects.

Also people have been complaining about excess traffic on ffmpeg-devel, which 
indicates that we should break stuff down into smaller projects (if it were 
practical - I don't think it is in this particular case), rather than let the 
scope creep.

>We should put a newly developed ffserver into the main ffmpeg git.

Well, if you have funding for developing and maintaining it, I don't think 
people will object much. Because it's not that big of a stretch from what 
FFmpeg is, and no stretch at all from what it was.

>We should put wasm build support into the main ffmpeg git.

Sure, if it can pass code reviews absolutely. WASM should be treated as just 
another ISA.

>We should turn ffplay into a fully competetive player.

No. First there is no such thing as "a fully competitive player". You would 
need at least one mobile player, one smart TV and STB player and one desktop 
player, on top of the existing crude CLI player. And that's if you manage 
Android and iOS, mac and Windows, together. Otherwise it's even more players.

Then you would need each of them to have features that FFmpeg doesn't have as a 
back-end, notably media library management.

That's a lot of work, mostly GUI work. No offence but you and most other devs 
here don't strike me as GUI devs. VLC is pretty much dead now for 
under-estimating how hard it was to rewrite the desktop UI. How will you find 
and keep motivated the developers for all that UI work? They are not going to 
manifest spontaneously, even less so in a community with a deservedly horrible 
reputation as FFmpeg's.

Unless you just won the Euromillion or something like that, this is not going 
to happen. No ifs or buts about it.
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