On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 09:05:05PM +0200, Ondřej Fiala wrote: > On Mon Apr 29, 2024 at 9:04 PM CEST, Davy Durham wrote: > > Presently do you not have to create an account on the devel mailing list to > > contribute to ffmpeg? > > > > So on the flip side, I (actually) find it just as annoying to have to > > create such accounts at every project rather than my having one account at > > GitHub (or a relatively few for other hosting sites) and can then > > contribute to literally thousands of projects without any friction. > I would disagree on the "friction" part. To contribute, you have to "fork" > the project, add your "fork" as a new git remote, push to it, and only then > can you create a pull request. In comparison, contributing using email is > literally just two simple git commands without ever having to leave the > terminal.
IMHO, GitHub have improved that user experience significantly in recent years. Yes you're still making a fork and pushing it, but the experience is more like click the edit button -> make changes (in an admittedly clunky web editor) -> save and push. The rest is just kinda presented as implementation details. That's a bit of a nitpick, but the wider point is interesting - GitHub etc. are fast-moving targets, so today's friction points become tomorrow's selling points, then the next day's lock-in opportunities. That makes it hard to compare to a mailing list, which is unlikely to be better or worse ten years from now. > > Moreover now being subscribed to that list I get 50 emails a day that I > > have to wait through. Just so long as I want to contribute. Sure I can > > create rules but it is pretty obnoxious. > > > > As a casual contributor, I much prefer getting notifications about my > > occasion contributions. But one can opt to get notified of everything by > > subscribing to the whole project. > I actually agree that the mailing list can be somewhat annoying as well, > which is why I like that on SourceHut you can send a patch to their mailing > lists without being subscribed and it's standard practice that people Cc you > on the replies. I really feel like this should be standard practice; > subscribing to the mailing list makes no sense if you only want to send in a > single patch, and it increases the effort required by flooding you with emails > which aren't relevant to you, as you say. > > I personally find the mailing list much less annoying than using GitHub even > when subscription is required, but I feel like without having to subscribe > it's the most straight-forward way really. I haven't properly tried this, and it's an ugly hack if it works at all, but it might be possible to support logged-out comments with a web-based trigger. Triggers are designed to let you e.g. ping a URL on github.com when some third-party dependency is updated, and have code on their servers automatically pull in that dependency and rebuild your package without manual intervention. But you could equally ping "my-web-hook?name=...&comment=..." then have your bot turn that into a comment. This isn't unique to GitHub - a quick look suggests GitLab can do the same, and I wouldn't be surprised if SourceHut can too. And a self-hosted solution could presumably use this as the basis for a general anonymous comment thing. _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
