On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 06:37:58PM +0100, Hendrik Leppkes wrote: > On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 6:31 PM Michael Niedermayer > <mich...@niedermayer.cc> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 07:19:41PM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: > > > Le tiistaina 31. lokakuuta 2023, 18.58.57 EET Michael Niedermayer a écrit > > > : > > > > > That's not a credible solution for a library. All reverse dependency > > > > > developers would disable that before they ship affected FFmpeg > > > > > versions, > > > > > or worse, just stop updating their vendored FFmpeg. > > > > > > > > If its announced and we point to the commit, maybe half the minor users > > > > will remove it, maybe most of the bigger ones. If its not announced > > > > noone would remove it. companies do not audit the FFmpeg commits. > > > > They would remove it after seeing it but at that point it did what it > > > > intended to to, inform users again, like i said thats hypothetical and > > > > controversal. But basically doing the same as companies which put > > > > advertisements in without asking either creator nor viewer. > > > > > > How do you show ads without a GUI? Hijack the video signal from the > > > decoder? > > > > In this very very hypothetical idea ... > > it would not be a add, but a simple information box shown briefly that says > > something like "decoded with ffmpeg.org, donate if you enjoy" / "encoded > > with ffmpeg.org, donate if you enjoy" > > > > If as a professional user of a decoder library, it starts putting in > an ad or a watermark or whatever you want to call it, even if briefly, > i'm looking for a new decoder library, or will venture to remove the > message instantly. > And if that wasn't enough to completely destroy the projects > reputation, if you then try to hide it by randomizing or whatever, so > that testing before deployment doesn't see it, that definitely will. > > This is not acceptable behavior for a decoder. And no "exposure" due
like i said, its a hypothetical and controversal thought experiment > to bad press will actually yield you a benefit. > Companies won't pay > you, because that doesn't get rid of the message. That misses the goal, the goal of this was to reach some of the more than 1 billion users we have and who do not know they are using FFmpeg. > They'll pay an > engineer to disable it. it would just show up once lets say on a specific day 1 year after the code is added. we would remove it on that day ourselfs. It would just be a simple one time shown message that says "Decoded by ffmpeg.org / Please donate, if you enjoy" thx [...] -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Into a blind darkness they enter who follow after the Ignorance, they as if into a greater darkness enter who devote themselves to the Knowledge alone. -- Isha Upanishad
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