On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 1:13 AM Michael Niedermayer
<mich...@niedermayer.cc> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 12:32:18AM +0300, Jan Ekström wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 12:21 AM Jan Ekström <jee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 11:49 PM Michael Niedermayer
> > > <mich...@niedermayer.cc> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 08:48:35PM +0300, Jan Ekström wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 8:26 PM Michael Niedermayer
> > > > > <mich...@niedermayer.cc> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 12:02:13AM +0300, Jan Ekström wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 3:47 PM Jan Ekström <jee...@gmail.com> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Originally added as a private entry in commit
> > > > > > > > 3f75e5116b900f1428aa13041fc7d6301bf1988a, but its grouping with
> > > > > > > > the comment noting its private state was missed during merging 
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the field from Libav (most likely due to an already existing 
> > > > > > > > field
> > > > > > > > in between).
> > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Its a public struct in a public header so deprecate
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thx
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, just confirming but so you don't consider this to be of the same
> > > > > type as these 
> > > > > http://git.videolan.org/?p=ffmpeg.git;a=blobdiff;f=libavformat/avio.h;h=a7b56ab6674f0a25be3b480df314e2d1292f397b;hp=0b35409787c925d681a121aa8d8715c3921fddf2;hb=45bfe8b838275235412777dd430206d9a24eb3ee;hpb=530ac6aa305aeda631c77f8a17e96c14c7ab1a1c
> > > > > ?
> > > >
> > > > i assume this was during ABI bumping,
> > > > when the major version numbers change then ABI/API breaking changes can 
> > > > be
> > > > done.
> > > >
> > >
> > > IIRC ABI breakage after bumping was supposed to be a ~month but then
> > > IIRC people posted such things much later. Was there a message or note
> > > when this period ended?
>
> Maybe someone assumed that everyone agreed what "a ~month" is ?
>
>
> > >
> >
> > This commit 
> > (http://git.videolan.org/?p=ffmpeg.git;a=commit;h=45bfe8b838275235412777dd430206d9a24eb3ee)
> > was applied in late August (as the entries were private - kind of like
> > this one remaining entry), and I can find Anton noting in May that the
> > project is in ABI instability period. So do excuse me for not knowing
> > which mode we are in right now if it went on for at least four months
> > :D
>
> I think you should really implement a full statistics API instead of
> this as you clearly have alot of time.

I do not have a lot of time, I just saw this as a finalization of the
clean-up of private fields that Andreas started and I wanted to ask
about which people would prefer, since we have not yet had a release
branching with the API major version that this clean-up is included
in.

If you disagree with Andreas's actions from late August, then I would
have preferred you to note that. I would have been OK with something a
la "It was not clearly marked in our (FFmpeg's) merge so we consider
it public and not private.", instead I got what (at least to me) felt
like re-education on what API/ABI breaks are, plus what seemed to be
not reading all those references I provided to why I thought this was
a private field and why this in my opinion was just a continuation of
the previous commit done by Andreas. I am sorry for the knee-jerk
reflex-like response, it is not productive. I think I just felt like
getting ignored and getting a standard "he doesn't understand the
basics of this basic thing" response, even though I attempted to
provide all the information regarding *why* I was asking.

Jan
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