August 14, 2021 12:34 AM, "zhilizhao(赵志立)" <quinkbl...@foxmail.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 14, 2021, at 11:27 AM, ffmpegandmahanstreamer@e.email wrote: >> >> August 13, 2021 8:42 PM, "Ronald S. Bultje" <rsbul...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 4:51 AM Nicolas George <geo...@nsup.org> wrote: >> >> Paul Buxton (12021-08-12): >> From the point of view of someone who is currently developing a filter >> for >> ffmpeg and will be submitting a patch to the list for the first time, I >> think this is a great idea.Whilst following simple instructions to >> prepare >> and submit a patch should't be outside the ability of anyone who is >> capable >> of contributing. Using something like github allows a more automated >> workflow that can make the process smoother and even make lives easier >> for >> the maintainers as it is possible for the automations to catch issues >> before they get sent on to you. >> >> Have you wondered why these periodical threads "we/you should make >> FFmpeg more attractive" usually end up a discussion between disgruntled >> newbies congratulating each other for their great ideas, with only the >> occasional bored experienced developer stepping in? >>> Experienced dev speaking here: I absolutely 100% disagree with this >>> statement. I would be much happier to actively contribute to FFmpeg if it >>> used gitlab/hub. I find this mailinglist environment beyond horrendous. I >>> can't understand why anyone would be OK with our current approach. I only >>> grudgingly use it when I need to because I'm assuming I'm the minority and >>> I'm willing to accept the majority consensus, but not because I support it >>> or think it's a good idea. >> >> This reminds me: dav1d, gstreamer, nihav, VLC, x265, rav1e, svt-vp9, etc. >> and other major >> multimedia projects are now all on Github/Gitlab/some graphical platform. >> Its' ffmpeg that's mostly >> stuck in the past. Everyone's moving on. To be fair, all the projects >> (except gstreamer and vlc) >> started off that way, but it shows where the general trend it still. > I even forgot to add mpv and OBS to that list. > I’m glad VLC development has transfer from mailing list to self hosted > Gitlab, although it’s not > perfect, e.g., gitlab is slow for large patch set. > > I have spent a lot of time on finding a email service provider for mailing > list based development: You can try the two mail providers i've been/or have used. They all work great. But i assume yours is also good, i'll have to try it. > > - All patches are treated as spam by 163.com, I can't sent a single email > (well, patch doesn’t look > like normal conversation…) > - Email backend developer or client developer don’t know about the use case > of mailing list, they > don’t understand my bug report, or don’t care. > - gmail is blocked by GFW, that’s another story… > > I’ve helped my friends to setup email for sending patch. It’s like DIY shoes > before jogging. DIY is > interesting, but definitely time consuming. Coding is a necessary skill for > contributing, debugging > is a necessary skill for contributing, but vim is not, no matter how I like > it. > Exactly. Different times, different people. > Maybe there are some details which are overlooked on the GitGitGadget > solution, but “easy to > contributing and more contributor will lower the patch quality” is not a good > reason to reject the > solution. > >> Its not just multimedia, major projects from all over the OSS sphere are >> moving to these graphical >> platforms. Even webkit and clang, some of the largest codebases. >> >> If people loved mailing lists all those projects would start off with those >> and still use them. >> >> Again, why use a slide rule when there are calculators? >> >> Again, there are many platforms that are not full blown github/gitlab like >> gitea, codeberg, gogs, >> gitbucket etc. that are very nice. >> >> To be honest, i do think the mailing list should be eventually phased out. >> And i think it will be, >> as fresh blood comes in from younger kids who have been using the graphical >> platforms for their >> entire programming career. It may happen next month, it may happen in one >> year, it may happen in 5 >> years. But it will happen. >> >>> Ronald >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ffmpeg-devel mailing list >>> ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org >>> https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel >>> >>> To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email >>> ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ffmpeg-devel mailing list >> ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org >> https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel >> >> To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email >> ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". > > _______________________________________________ > ffmpeg-devel mailing list > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org > https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel > > To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email > ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
