On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 21:14, Robert Crawford wrote:
> Janet,
> Frankly, I'm no expert, and don't really know exactly what the relevance of 
> kernel.h is, except that it's generated at boot time. I seem to have multiple 
> versions, but they are all exactly the same content. Very curious. I'm sure 
> many people on this list know far more than I do on the subject.
> 
> I believe and initrd.img isn't required unless you have scsi drives. I know 
> I've left it out when compiling lots of 2.4.xx kernels, and they all work 
> fine, so I guess that's likely true, as I don't have any scsi drives.

Or if you are using a journaled file system like reiserfs.  
> 
> Keep us posted on your 2.5.xx experience. I've build 2.5.67 through 2.5.72 
> with varying degrees of success. I just tried 2.5.73 today with the bk6 
> patch, and it went well, but then it doesn't boot- just a black screen. 2.5's 
> are really not ready for much except testing purposes, at least for me. I've 
> really tried to get them to work for months, and have gotten it down to 
> either they work fine with no serial drives enabled (thus no internet/modem), 
> or serial drivers enabled, and lots of serious file manager problems (freezes 
> and long delays). For me, it's been a show stopper so far, and seemingly 
> unsolvable.
> 
> Robert C.
> 
> On Tuesday 01 July 2003 21:10, kiosk wrote:
> > Thank you so much, Robert, for an elegant description of a process which
> > has been to some extent mysterious for me for some time, despite my
> > experience in compiling kernels for various Slackware installations. I
> > intend to experiment with a 2.5.xx kernel in the hope that my E7205
> > chipset will be supported so that I can load the AGPGART module for my
> > NVIDIA card.
> >
> > However, I wonder if you would be so kind as to explain the presence of
> > the kernel.h file in /boot, and it's relevance to the boot process. I
> > don't think I need, and, ideally, would dispense with kernel.h and
> > initrd.img.
> >
> > I'm not sure that I need to patch a kernel at all, but if I can patch a
> > stable kernel, and, as a result, load AGPGART, then perhaps that would be
> > the way to go?
> >
> >
> > Janet Blankfield
> >
> >
> > "The ideal love affair is one conducted by post." JBS
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 12:39:17 -0400
> >
> > Robert Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Waiting sounds wise- no use in messing up your current setup.
> > >
> > > However, if you really wanted to see if it will apply, what you could
> > > try is copying your stock MDK kernel sources directory from /usr/src to
> > > it's own directory in /home. (Compiling there is much safer than doing
> > > it as root in /usr/src, especially for people like me still
> > > learning).Then make a backup of your .config file, and cd in a console
> > > (as user) to the new directory in /home where you copied the MDK kernel
> > > sources to, and run mrproper. Then, try applying the Hz patch. If it
> > > applies OK, do a make xconfig and load the copy of your stock .config
> > > file into xconfig., Then change the value of the Hz line to =1000Hz, and
> > > save and exit.
> > >
> > >  VERY IMPORTANT:Check the makefile extra version line at the top of the
> > >  file
> > > to see if it added the -ck2 extra version when the patch applied,
> > > otherwise if you do choose to install this kernel and the name (version)
> > > is the same, it will overwrite your original modules directory, and not
> > > create a new -ck2 version. In your case, that would be a disaster.
> > >
> > > Then you can (as user) do:
> > >
> > > make dep
> > > make clean
> > > make bzImage
> > > make modules
> > >
> > > If you get through these with no error outs, you are probably OK, and
> > > will then know the patch probably didn't cause any problem. Up to this
> > > point, nothing you have done could possibly affect your current kernel
> > > setup.
> > >
> > > If you want to actually install, su to root and do:
> > >
> > > make modules_install
> > >
> > > This will put a new modules directory in /lib/modules with the new -ck2
> > > version name, leaving the original untouched.
> > >
> > > I never do the usual final "make install" to call the kernel script
> > > after that if I'm not compiling in /usr/src. I did that once, and had
> > > huge problems. I manually copy System.map and bzImage to /boot, naming
> > > them to reflect the extra version, like System.map-2.4.21-ck2, and
> > > bzImage-2.4.21-ck2. I then edit lilo, and since I don't use an initrd
> > > file for the new kernel, I delete the initrd line in the new kernel's
> > > lilo stanza, so it looks like:
> > >
> > > image=/boot/bzImage-2.4.21-ck3
> > >   label=2421ck3
> > >   root=/dev/hda10
> > >   append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off quiet"
> > >   vga=788
> > >   read-only
> > >
> > > Then save, and run lilo as root.
> > >
> > > Of course there's no way to know if doing all this will actually
> > > increase system response in a noticable way, even if the patch applies
> > > on the MDK kernel, without actually doing it. I can report that all the
> > > ck patches I've applied seem to work great on the vanilla 2.4.21.
> > >
> > > BTW, when I installed the MDK multimedia kernel and kernel sources rpms,
> > > it worked perfectly. I just put them in their own directory, and did as
> > > root:
> > >
> > > rpm -ivh *.rpm
> > >
> > > That installed everything, and edited lilo too. But like you said, you
> > > might need extra drivers that I didn't have to contend with. You might
> > > have to install the srpm, and patch the source, then rebuild new
> > > multimedia rpms. I think they posted a newer multimedia (-18mdk, up from
> > > the -16mdk I used) that might have updated drivers.
> > > Maybe we can figure out what happen when you tried it. What's the exact
> > > procedure you used?
> > >
> > > Robert Crawford
> 
> 
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