Raider wrote: >On Sun, 2002-06-02 at 21:42, J. Craig Woods wrote: > >>Sevatio, >> >>I couldn't agree with you more. This is the "Great Secret" that >>Micro$oft, Symantec, and many other big software companies, work so hard >>to keep secret. Just consider what they stand to lose, in revenue, if >>more people understood how Linux protects them against so many of the >>everyday exploits that MicroThrash is prone to. >> > >I read this over and over again. People saying - move to Linux, move to >Linux. But have you ever thought that many of the Linux users run as >root because they are too lazy to enter the root password when needed >and complain about not having (now they have) an autologin option? >Think a minute about all those guys who pretend to be admins and still >run Apache 1.3.12 or whatever came with their old distribution even if >the upgrade is painless and it takes less clicks than a Windoze >install. If you don't believe me check the guys who run Win2k.. and see >how many give the admin rights to their "regular" account... and this is >not because of some weird setting, it is for installing and running >apps... apps like virii and trojans. > >Now, sit tight, and think a minute about how much more vulnerable and >how much more damage can a Linux box do compared with a Windoze Home >Edition. I've seen over the time all the ports opened. And the firwall >still requires some strong voodoo, at least this is how the majority >thinks. With telnet and ftp active, with an exploit, and all the >building tools installed a Linux in the hands of a script kiddy can >really create some problems, far bigger than that mail overflow provoked >by scripts like Melissa. Also keep in mind that while Windoze doesn't >give you all the networking tools, while Windoze doesn't give you any >development tool besides windoze scripting host (in case you can >consider that a development tool), while Windoze has a "typical" >install, Linux has "install all". And with the nowadays hard drives, >every moron can click on install all, because... after all... nobody >teaches them what they need and what they have to have. Everybody says >"install that and that and that, than find whichever you like and >eventually uninstall the others". > >That's about all I had to say. >Raider > Well, if we were to build it idiot proof, someone would build a better idiot.
The linux virus is a danger to those who download binaries from dubious sites. and to all who run as root. Even with our poison red screen and autologin to a non-priveleged user, there are yahoos who will run as root. But then bliss, which came with its own disinfection kit, could also be loaded into a binary for those who never check. And think of the binaries NO ONE has the source to--these are potential security holes as well, from video drivers to linmodems of the PCTel flavor. But actually, I would rather take over an XP box than a linux one if I wanted to do some attacking. With a stolen VB and a little elbow grease and their full rawsockets stack, I could indetectably cook with uranium, and never worry that the user might detect the inadvertant fork bomb or a sudden sluggishness in his computer, and I wouldn't have to rootkit anything. Civileme
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