On Tue, 28 May 2002, Simon Naish wrote:

> OK fair enough, but this is covered in the Mandrake Reference Manual, under the 
>chapter heading:-
>     Using The Command Line
> Section:-
>     File Handling Utilities
> Command:-
>     mv: Moving or Renaming Files.
> 
> Maybe this information would have been more useful to a newbie than 
>     just mv <file> <destination> 

very true... you are 100% correct, and had you not pointed this out in 
this manner this new person would not have known "where" to find this 
information. :) all part of the Journey. heck! it was 3 months before I 
realized there even was a basic instruction manual on the system. 

Mark

> 
> (or even go to the linux-mandrake site and click documentation, then          select 
>your language (might really help!) and Reference Manual.)
> 
> as the command doesn't really cover the important bit, where to find this stuff out 
>for yourself. As 'experts' - I dont include myself as an expert per se, but I have 
>played about with Linux for a while etc, and am a developer using Linux every day at 
>work, and prefer Mandrake at home to any other distro/OS. 
> 
> The point is this newbie has asked a good question. mv isnt immediately obvious, but 
>its not necessarily the best question to have asked. That would have been, 'where do 
>I discover how to use the command line interface in a nicely formated way?' As 
>experts this should be the first response. Not only are we who are on this list 
>purporting to be able to solve serious problems, but also point people in the right 
>direction to help themselves where appropriate.
> 
> This isnt in any way an attempt to put peoples efforts down, I wouldnt be on the 
>list if I didnt rate it, I'm not on any others as this ones so useful :). However 
>much I appreciate the whole 'we're experts dont bother us with nonsense questions' 
>argument, I cant help feeling it doesnt help the community to flame newbies asking 
>what are, to them expert questions. Dont forget the comand line is no longer the way 
>new users and people generally perceive Linux, kde or gnome or fluxbox or whatever 
>is. Thus to Joe Bloggs the CLI is truly a daunting place, which only experts 
>understand. Makes sense to ask the experts when its put like that.
> 
> Of course we should answer, but also educate, and help that education by doing more 
>than answering such a 'simple' question with a lowest common denominator answer.
> 
> Peace.
> 


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