I'm tied up this week with out of town guests...

I'd be more available to deal with this with you next week if you wish.

-JMS


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Subject: RE: [expert] Anyone successfully using ncpfs on Mandrake 8.0?



Jose,

I appreciate your assistance...  Thanks for taking the
time to dialog with me regarding this issue...

The data I gave, though, was for IPX related data...  See
the following example output from ifconfig:

1002=# ifconfig
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:08:1C:61:A1
          inet addr:192.168.128.5  Bcast:192.168.128.255
Mask:255.255.255.0
          IPX/Ethernet 802.3 addr:0A0A0000:0060081C61A1
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:35467505 errors:0 dropped:0
overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:32171040 errors:0 dropped:0
overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
          Interrupt:10 Base address:0xff00

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
          RX packets:13637 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:13637 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
In particular, note the IPX data.  You will see that
indeed I was referring to IPX specific data and not
TCP/IP paramenters.  I perhaps should have included this
whole output instead of just using the addr: portion.
The IPX address consists of a network address and a node address that is
the same as the MAC address of the network interface. When the system
probes the network, it should be able to autodetect the network number
and then tack on the node portion to this.  It is my initial experience,
however, that ifconfig does not display the network adress (on my
system) when the interfaces are in autoconfigured. 
Ifconfig only shows the network address when I manually
create the interfaces.

Also, you seem to forget that I have never been able to
get slist to show me any information other than an error message.

I have one Novell server (486DX66, 20MB RAM, VESA local
bus).  For all practical purposes, it is only functioning
as a print server.  My printer is in a different physical location than
the system that is running Mandrake 8.0 and Windows 98.

I do not use Samba, because my system has been set up
this way for years...  I had Novell before Linux was as
popular as it is now, and because I used Novell in
connection with my work.

Secondly, I have avoided using Samba because I would have
to reconfigure the Novell system hardware to make it
possible to load FreeBSD or Linux on it.  The SCSI
controller in the Novell box is not supported under Linux
or FreeBSD.  I have recently acquired a VESA local bus
Adaptec 29xx SCSI card, but I hate to go to the effort of reconfiguring
the box if this Novell issue is simply an OS configuration hassle.

It is hard to justify an upgrade to hardware when this is simply an
overblown print server...  If I did that, I might as well just buy a
standalone print server.

The fact remains that my network is largely one used for keeping in
touch with various OS's so that I can be somewhat versed in a variety of
computing environments. 
If I am to subscribe wholly to the concept of using
Linux, I would like to have knowledge about how to
configure it for use in a variety of connectivity
environments.

Kevin R. Bulgrien
> I don't know if you got my last E-Mail, but the numbers you are 
> indicating are not those for IPX frames needed for Mars & ncpmount...
> 
> -JMS
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 10:30 AM
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> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [expert] Anyone successfully using ncpfs on Mandrake 8.0?
> 
> 
> 
> Yeah, I've done that...
> 
> Depending on whether I manually set the network number
> or leave it to autoprobe, the addr field comes up with 
> addr:0x0a0a0000.[MacAddress] or addr:[MacAddress].
> 
> 0x0a0a0000 is the correct network number for my setup,
> but leaving auto_interface and auto_primary on never
> gets ifconfig to show the 0x0a0a0000 network number.
> 
> I see no messages in the various system logs that would indicate a 
> network failure.
> 
> Yes, its a stock boxed set installation.  No OS updates
> have been applied though I have downloaded a few end-user application 
> rpms that were built specifically for Mandrake. The install is 
> literally an upgrade of a Mandrake 7.2 boxed set install. I suppose if

> I can dig up another disk somewhere I could try a truly "clean" 
> install, but that seems rather extreme.  I'd almost rather can Novell 
> and just go with FreeBSD as a print server, except that the SCSI card 
> in the Novell box is not supported by either Linux or by FreeBSD.  I'd

> have to reconfig the hardware to even be able to make it work.  The 
> other complication is that its a 486DX66 with only 20MB or so of RAM.

> Novell works fine, but I don't have a good feel for what the other 
> OS's require.
> 
> Yes, the network is all 10Base2 (Coax).  All of the (3)
> cards I have tried are not even 100MB capable, nevermind
> the fact that none of the connections are UTP.
> Kevin R. Bulgrien
> > You might want to try running ipconfig after bringing up MARS and
> > seeing what it lists for the IPX network addresses & frames.
> > 
> > Frequently the reason SLIST will not function is that the autoprobe
> > did not occur correctly.
> > 
> > I'm assuming you are using a stock 8.0 installation, and have not
> > tried (screwing... Eh) updating it with any downloads...
> > 
> > Also are you SURE that all of your NICS and HUBS are running at the
> > same speed?
> > 
> > -JMS
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin R. 
> > Bulgrien
> > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 6:34 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [expert] Anyone successfully using ncpfs on Mandrake
8.0?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Well, that's what I thought...
> > 
> > But the thing is, slist still doesn't work.
> > 
> > I've tried 3 different NICs, 802.2 and 802.3 framing on the Netware
> > box, with and without mars-nwe, auto and manually configured 
> > interfaces... 2.4.3 and alternate 2.2 kernel.  I've even tried 
> > compiling in IPX support instead of using modules.
> > 
> > I can see the SAP packets hitting my box because ifconfig increments
> > the packet count everytime the Novell box advertises itself.  I can 
> > telnet the Novell box and administer it with a terminal...  My
network
> 
> > and card is operating properly, just not IPX.
> > 
> > My Windows98 partition sees the Novell side perfectly.  There are no
> > other clients on the network.  This is a really sad situation...  To

> > say I am frustrated would be an understatement.
> > 
> > Kevin R. Bulgrien
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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