For me Mandrake 8 performs good for the most part,
I have been testing the poop out of it to get it to misbehave,
and the only fatal thing that I found that happens,
is that when you try to set up your /usr/bin/ktalkdlg
in the control center under Network and then Talk configuration,
the whole machine freezes, but other than that, it runs good.

I thought I would give the postfix MTA a shot, although
I had trouble finding out where the spam controls were,
so I for now went back to sendmail.

I think Konq quit crashing, but the user agent still
appears to be broken, it will not save what you put
in, or I forgot how to save it.


On Thursday 26 April 2001 01:20 pm, so spoke Todd Flinders:
> Okay, I finally got Mandrake 8.0 completely downloaded
> and installed.  Overall, I would say it's a success.
> We've had a lot of people posting about problems and I
> know that has discouraged some from trying 8.0.  But
> if you have a similar situation as me with a box that
> can afford the risk, I actually recommend giving 8.0 a
> try.
>
> I installed on:
>
> 512 Megs PC-133 RAM
> Intel Pentium III 866 MHz
> Asus CUSL2 mobo (with Intel 815E chipset)
> Hercules Prophet II (GeForce 2 GTS w/ 64 Megs DDR)
> 30 gig IBM ATA 100 hard drive
> Pioneer 16x DVD drive
> Yamaha 8/4/24 CDRW
> Soundblaster Live!
> Linksys EtherFast 10/100 NIC (LNE100TX)
> Logitech wireless mouse + wheel and wireless keyboard
> Viewsonic 19in PS790
>
> Hardware not yet functioning:
>
> Sigma Hollywood Plus DVD decoder
> Intel PocketPC Webcam
>
> Overall installation went pretty smoothly.  Most of my
> hardware was detected and set up without problems.
> When Mandrake loaded it was attractive, stable, and
> fast.
>
> I did not run into any major issues.  Programs I
> tested seemed to launch and function properly.  I
> remembered someone having GL problems and mentioning
> TuxRacer as an example.  After loading nvidia's
> detonator drivers for Linux, I tried TuxRacer.  It ran
> perfectly (and the music is very cool!).  Sound seems
> to be working almost flawlessly with most applications
> utilizing all four speakers + subwoofer.  The only
> "flaw" is that it is slightly quieter than in Windows.
>  Adjustments to the sound mixer application quickly
> and easily brought the volume to acceptable levels
> (but never quite as loud and crisp as windows).
>
> For those of you that were having mild problems with
> the Linksys ethernet card in 7.2 like I was, you will
> be happy to know that 8.0 installation detected and
> installed Linksys and my network (Internet through
> LAN) flawlessly and easily.  If you are using the
> LNE100TX, you will not have a problem with 8.0.
>
> There were a few small issues with 8.0, but nothing
> overwhelming (for me!).
>
> If I chose the Logitech driver during installation, my
> mousewheel would not function.  I found that I had to
> choose the Generic PS/2 with wheel driver.  If you are
> using the cordless Logitech wheelmouse, select the
> generic driver and all will be fine.
>
> I loaded KDE and Gnome.  Both seemed to have nice
> improvements and ran fine.  In Gnome you have to
> answer a few basic questions for Eazel, but no big
> deal.  When I exited Gnome, though, my kdm did crash.
> I'll have to look into that further.
>
> Hardware configuration reports a list of unknown Intel
> devices.  I suspect this is my chipset.  Everything
> seems to be functioning properly.  So, I do not think
> this is a big deal.  The same thing occurred for me in
> 7.2.
>
> My Hollywood Plus DVD decoder card is detected by the
> Hardware configurator, but at this time it doesn't
> appear to be functional.  Sourceforge has some
> experimental drivers for it that I will try over the
> weekend.  Anyone interested can check them out.
> However, the HOWTO stresses the immaturity of these
> drivers so it would be inappropriate to expect
> Mandrake to support this card at this time.
>
> My USB Intel PocketPC Webcam was not detected at all
> buy the Hardware Configurator.  However, this webcam
> uses a progressive scan CCD to take its photos.  I
> haven't yet found any projects for such a webcam.  So,
> again, I do not expect Mandrake to support this any
> time soon.
>
> The only real issue that I had was that (believe it or
> not) when looking at certain webpages using certain
> fonts, those fonts would be messed up.  Even more
> surprising is that I tried this with Konqueror and
> Netscape 4.77 and while the problem exists in both
> environments, it is far worse in Konqueror.  With
> Konqueror, the fonts were almost unreadable (remember
> this was only certain fonts on certain webpages).
>
> An example of a page that made fonts display poorly
> for me is the following:
> http://www.nvidia.com/Products/Drivers.nsf/Linux.html
>
> If anyone can check that page and report whether their
> fonts are messed up too, that would be greatly
> appreciated.  Specifically, the narrative at the top
> was very bad.
>
> I did edit /etc/X11/fs/config to list the 100dpi fonts
> first (making them the default as discussed on
> mandrakeuser.org).  In 7.2 this always made a
> significant improvement for me.  However, this seemed
> to make no difference for me with 8.0.
>
> Because the downloaded version of Mandrake 8.0 does
> not include the nvidia detonator drivers, the
> installation must install using the "nv" driver.  I
> believe that "nv" does NOT support anti-aliasing and
> so I thought that might be my problem.  I wondered if
> maybe when 8.0 was installing if it somehow turned off
> anti-aliasing because it had to use the "nv" driver.
> I installed the NVidia detonator driver which does
> support anti-aliasing, but if I need to somehow enable
> anti-aliasing, I don't know how.  Can anyone help me
> with this problem?  Is there a way I can test my
> anti-aliasing to verify for certain if it is enabled?
> If it is indeed disabled, how do I enable it?
>
> I am confident that the nvidia detonator driver is
> loaded properly.  I did make the necessary changes to
> XF86Config-4.  I did change the names of the old
> MesaGL drivers before installing the nvidia drivers.
> I did an lsmod and verified that the NVidia module is
> indeed loaded.  Also, GL games load and run smoothly
> (inferring glx loaded properly).
>
> After installation I did install many packages that I
> apparently missed during the installation (maybe I
> should have chosen individual package selection).  I
> used the Software Manager (or whatever it's called)
> from the Mandrake Control Center.  It was fast,
> stable, and attractive.  Installing software from the
> CD was very easy and intuitive using this tool.
>
> However, it appears I am supposed to use this for
> updating as well.  MandrakeUpdate seems as if it has
> been completely replaced.  I successfully configured a
> server (ftp.stealth.net) for it to search for updates.
>  However, no updates were ever reported (as far as I
> could tell).  Maybe I don't have packages that require
> updates installed, but I thought that at least Samba
> had a new update.
>
> While Software Manager excels in installation from the
> CD, I didn't think it was as intuitive for updating as
> MandrakeUpdate was.  I did not have any stability
> issues with Software Manager as many had reported
> having with MandrakeUpdate, though.  Most likely, this
> "lack of intuitiveness" is due to me being a moron,
> however.  haha... I will search Mandrake's demo site
> to see if there is any information there.
>
> I also was mildly disappointed (although it's no big
> deal) with the new graphical bootup.  I preferred
> Aurora because it would list the services that were
> started making it considerably easier to read if one
> was interested.  Also, Aurora allowed me to change my
> boot level if necessary.  I'll have to look further
> into this issue as well.
>
> Finally, the only other strange occurrence was that I
> told Grub during installation to make the console
> 1024x768.  This worked flawlessly in 7.2, but did not
> work in 8.0.  I suppose this could have easily been
> user error.  Does anyone know what file I need to edit
> to fix this?
>
> But as you can see, these issues are very small.
> Mandrake install went very well.  It went smoother
> than my 7.2 install.  I am pleased with the results.
> A lot of work was put into improving the appearamce of
> the environment.  Every program I used seemed to work
> flawlessly.  I had the latest of my favorite
> applications.  The system (thus far) seems to be fast
> and stable.  The configuration tools in general are
> intuitive and powerful.
>
> If you're running an Intel based system similar to
> mine, I think you will be pleased with the upgrade.  I
> would recommend giving it a try if you are not running
> a critical system.  While many are having issues with
> their AMD based systems (this is unfortunate), it (so
> far) seems to be working great with mine.
>
> Take care.
>
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