* "Does it count as intelligence to understand a statement that is word salad?"*
Not to belittle entities that understand world salad, course it does. *Understanding* anything (as a mental act) requires intelligence. 2025年3月17日月曜日 0:15:57 UTC Brent Meeker: > Does it count as intelligence to understand a statement that is word salad? > > Brent > > > On 3/16/2025 1:37 AM, Mindey I. wrote: > > A while ago, I had entertained the idea of "list of ideas hardest to grasp > <https://www.halfbakery.com/idea/List_20of_20The_20Hardest_20Ideas_20To_20Grasp>" > > (halfbakery.com) that would define new thresholds for intelligence, a bit > like that existing between humans and animals: ideas that a human would > likely never in their lifetime understand, just like a dog would likely > never understand how a light bulb works. > > Today, the time has come when AI can be used to try to explore such ideas, > such lists. > > And so, I tried, and it resulted in claims of facts some of which were not > immediately obvious to me, but upon closer investigation appears to check > out, such as: > > - > > *"Events do not occur or exist; only the absence of specific events > exists and structures all reality."* > - > > *"Logic is not a method of reasoning; it is a physical substance > permeating reality that can be condensed, distilled, or destroyed."* > - > > *"Existence is fundamentally impossible; what appears to exist is > merely a persistent symmetry-breaking of impossibility."* > - > > *"Numbers are physically real beings with independent agency that > intentionally regulate relationships between what humans call objects."* > - > > *"Observation does not reduce uncertainty; rather, uncertainty itself > observes events into definite states."* > - > > *"Information does not convey meaning; it consumes meaning as a > resource to maintain its own stability."* > - > > *"Space is not dimensional; it is purely emotional, and distance is > measured only by changes in emotional states."* > - > > *"Identity is not a persistent feature of reality but an infectious > conceptual contagion spreading across unrelated structures."* > - > > *"Time never passes; it grows continuously outward in every direction > simultaneously, filling reality rather than flowing through it."* > - > > *"Cause and effect are illusions; reality consists entirely of > unrelated patterns imitating relationships without genuine connection."* > > I'm going to try to formalize them later, but here is my experiment: > https://chatgpt.com/share/67d686e8-3174-800e-b652-8c5d2b145294 > > I wonder, what would you discover, if you were to entertain the idea of > searching for facts about the nature of reality, that are as inexplicable > to humans, as the fact how a light bulb, or a computer screen works is > inexplicable to dogs? Where could our understanding of the universe and > capabilities lead to? What new science could we discover? > > Mindey > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e387432c-8714-4e84-9fad-0f39758ab45fn%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e387432c-8714-4e84-9fad-0f39758ab45fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/939f0f47-fb6c-4743-986b-3d3050209926n%40googlegroups.com.
