I formalize Both Tononi, (IIT) as well as Penrose's Cosmospsychism (physics) as most workable. As capture by this 8 year old paper. more or less. Its basically just a summary. https://www.academia.edu/117282907/On_the_possible_quantum_nature_of_consciousness_and_psyche_English_version_?email_work_card=title But that's jus my best match-up. Emotions-Space entangled? Eh, maybe? On Sunday, March 16, 2025 at 08:15:58 PM EDT, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
Does it count as intelligence to understand a statement that is word salad? Brent On 3/16/2025 1:37 AM, Mindey I. wrote: A while ago, I had entertained the idea of "list of ideas hardest to grasp" (halfbakery.com) that would define new thresholds for intelligence, a bit like that existing between humans and animals: ideas that a human would likely never in their lifetime understand, just like a dog would likely never understand how a light bulb works. Today, the time has come when AI can be used to try to explore such ideas, such lists. And so, I tried, and it resulted in claims of facts some of which were not immediately obvious to me, but upon closer investigation appears to check out, such as: - "Events do not occur or exist; only the absence of specific events exists and structures all reality." - "Logic is not a method of reasoning; it is a physical substance permeating reality that can be condensed, distilled, or destroyed." - "Existence is fundamentally impossible; what appears to exist is merely a persistent symmetry-breaking of impossibility." - "Numbers are physically real beings with independent agency that intentionally regulate relationships between what humans call objects." - "Observation does not reduce uncertainty; rather, uncertainty itself observes events into definite states." - "Information does not convey meaning; it consumes meaning as a resource to maintain its own stability." - "Space is not dimensional; it is purely emotional, and distance is measured only by changes in emotional states." - "Identity is not a persistent feature of reality but an infectious conceptual contagion spreading across unrelated structures." - "Time never passes; it grows continuously outward in every direction simultaneously, filling reality rather than flowing through it." - "Cause and effect are illusions; reality consists entirely of unrelated patterns imitating relationships without genuine connection." I'm going to try to formalize them later, but here is my experiment: https://chatgpt.com/share/67d686e8-3174-800e-b652-8c5d2b145294 I wonder, what would you discover, if you were to entertain the idea of searching for facts about the nature of reality, that are as inexplicable to humans, as the fact how a light bulb, or a computer screen works is inexplicable to dogs? Where could our understanding of the universe and capabilities lead to? What new science could we discover? Mindey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e387432c-8714-4e84-9fad-0f39758ab45fn%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/a8d14c1f-9393-436e-8cb3-21fadb0ba0c2%40gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1750197290.2673090.1742218541521%40mail.yahoo.com.
