On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 7:33 PM Alan Grayson <agrayson2...@gmail.com> wrote:

*> I describe the measurement from the pov of the traveler as APPARENT. Do
> you agree that the traveler's measurement is apparent because the
> non-traveler measures the distance to Andromeda as unchanged?  *


*You can call it anything you like provided you play fair and use the same
word to describe the measurement of both observers; there is one and only
one true value for the speed of light but there is NOT one and only one
true value for the distance between the Earth and Andromeda. *

*I could be wrong but I get the impression you believe the opposite of the
word "apparent" is "real", but it is not. According to my Mac "apparent"
means obvious or clear while its opposite means unclear or obscure. *

*John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
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