On Sunday, January 5, 2025 at 9:43:47 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote:

On 1/5/2025 7:44 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: 
> You claim there is no objective fact. The car fitted in the garage. 
> But that's only from the garage frame. 
If it's from only one frame and not another, that's the definition of 
"not objective".  It's not fact.  It's subjective perception. 

Brent


You truncated my statement. You showed the car fits in one frame
and not the other (the car frame). The paradox is based on the belief
that this is impossible. Disproving this belief is required to resolve
the paradox. AG


> It doesn't fit from the car frame, regardless of the doors, which IMO 
> can be dispensed with. So, as I see it, the paradox follows from the 
> belief that there can't be disagreement about what the frames 
> conclude. Isn't this the claim that must be disproven to resolve the 
> paradox, and a constructive proof that the frames disagree using the 
> LT is insufficient? AG 

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