On Thursday, August 6, 2020 at 11:18:53 AM UTC+2, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 31 Jul 2020, at 16:20, John Clark <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 9:19 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > > it is invalid to say that A is false because P asserts it > > > There is more to intelligence than just deduction, there is also induction > which is at least as powerful. If everything P has asserted in the past has > been shown to be false and now P asserts A then you can conclude that A is > probably, although not certainly, also false. That's why most intelligent > people wouldn't accept medical advice from somebody who in the past has > asserted that vaccines are made from space alien sperm to make people less > religious, and ovarian cysts are caused by woman dreaming about having > sex with deamons. But Trump is fine with taking such advice because Trump > is not intelligent. > > > My point was logical, and I agree it is wise to not follow an advice by > someone who has lied, … even just once, actually. >
That is very Christian if it is read literally. In a violent world, everybody is plausibly placed into positions of knowingly making untrue statements. E.g. somebody taking some medication for a certain condition or suffering in an environment in which its use is prohibited, has self-preservation arguments for not telling their community and lying about the fact. A lie is always somehow discursively situated along frames of force, violent histories etc. Their examination imparts some intuition as to whether lies can appear more justifiable with respect to certain discourses or not. Merely a general "thou shalt not lie" + number of lies in some history is not sufficient. > > Here we do have a problem which is that the FDA has lied a lot also since > long, so we are a bit in between the pest and the cholera. > With the nuance that everybody's health is exposed to uncertainty and risk. There is increased incentive for transparency on the one hand (that didn't exist in case of prohibition), but increased incentive for established authorities and interests to profit on the other. PGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/fbecb3e1-2dbb-4188-82f1-66c5bfb374d5o%40googlegroups.com.
