> On 31 Jul 2020, at 22:06, spudboy100 via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > You really must read up on your history more Bruno, That term comes from the > nazis and not I. Here is a 2015 Scientific American article reviewing a book > by Philip Ball, The Struggle for the Soul of Physics. > https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-2-pro-nazi-nobelists-attacked-einstein-s-jewish-science-excerpt1/ > > <https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-2-pro-nazi-nobelists-attacked-einstein-s-jewish-science-excerpt1/> > > I am accusing the politicization of medical science
That has been aggravated by the “marijuana conspiracy”. The book by Jack Herer remains a chef-d’oeuvre of investigation. He cites all its sources, and I have verified all of them. The problem is that when we do money with medication, there is an incentive to make people sick, and to avoid efficacious medication. Like the slogan sum up well: a cured patient is a lost client... > and the observations of physicians who have claimed that hydro can be helpful. I am not an expert to really judge this, but I know enough of logic to find mistakes in some critics against Didier Raoult (in France, a well-known pro-hydorxychoroquine). Then I learned that in many countries they are using hydroxychloroquine, with a success which seems better than with remdesivir. None of them are pananacea, and hydroxyhlorquine has to be used with a lot of care, at the benign of the infection, according to Didier Raoult. > I have no opposition to anything that can help, whether Donald Trump likes > it or not? OK? > The opposition here is more concerned with defeating the president in the > election, blaming him for democrat arson and looting, so as to secure the > election for their leaders, Kamala Harris, the real presidential candidate, > and Joe Biden, their figurehead. Thus, if orange dude recommended aspirin as > a blood thinner for suspected heart attacks, those here, would oppose it > vehemently. It is not a good strategy. At the same time, I understand the urge to get rid of Trump, Barr, Pompeo, McConnell … None of those people defend any Republican ideas, and they lie all the times, especially Barr, … It really look like all bandits side with Trump, so, optimistically, Trump’s possible (hopefully) defeat might be a quite positive events. After, we will have to deal with the extreme left, which is as grave if not graver than the extreme right… Bruno > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2020 9:30 am > Subject: Re: Sharpiegate > > >> On 30 Jul 2020, at 20:17, spudboy100 via Everything List >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> Actually it is a summary. The conclusion is that Hydro can be efficacious is >> 50-70% of the cases. This is now a time AAAS Science's opinion aside (pharma >> funded?) when most experts regarding covid have been proven wrong, and >> perhaps deliberately on their part. Politicized science is not science at >> all. > > Right. Like politicised religion is not religion at all. In fact those get > transformed, when politicised, into tools to prevent researches in the > domain, and combat any concurrent ideas. > > >> Whether it's Jewish Physics, or Lysenko's biology, > > Lyssenko’s biology was state authoritarian biology. It has led to the death > of 30 millions of people in the USSR (the biggest famine due to "human > error”). > > I have no clue what you mean by Jewish Physics. Einstein? > > > Bruno > > >> or even threats of climate collapse. To quote Galileo, It Moves, Still. Its >> either true or not? Who is ever president notwithstanding. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lawrence Crowell <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> To: Everything List <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 7:57 am >> Subject: Re: Sharpiegate >> >> On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 7:04:07 PM UTC-5 [email protected] >> <http://aol.com/> wrote: >> Again, regarding, Hydroxychloroquine, please refute: >> >> https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study >> <https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study> >> >> https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext >> <https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext> >> >> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7330574/ >> <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7330574/> >> >> >> >> I am not near enough of a bio-medical scientist to comment on these papers >> and what might be wrong with these. The last is just the NIH listing of >> papers and their abstracts or briefs. This is not an endorsement of the >> results. I am just aware results or claims of such results showing an >> efficacy for hydroxychloriquine are a minority report. The at large verdict >> is opposite. >> >> LC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lawrence Crowell <[email protected] <>> >> To: Everything List <[email protected] <>> >> Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2020 7:55 pm >> Subject: Re: Sharpiegate >> >> On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 7:01:12 AM UTC-5 [email protected] <> wrote: >> The following is from the July 10 issue of the journal Science and shows >> just how far Donald Trump is willing to corrupt science just so he doesn't >> have to admit he was wrong: >> >> NOAA watchdog chides agency for how it handled Hurricane Dorian’s >> ‘Sharpiegate’ >> <https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07/noaa-watchdog-chides-agency-how-it-handled-hurricane-dorian-s-sharpiegate> >> >> It is a case of how people become sycophants for t'Rump. >> >> >> And meanwhile just yesterday Trump was back on national television pushing a >> quack cure for COVID-19 (hydroxychloroquine) on millions of Americans and >> using as his "very impressive evidence" testimony of a doctor who believes >> facemasks are unnecessary, and many illnesses are caused by people having >> sex in their dreams with demons and witches, and the COVID-19 vaccines in >> development are made of DNA from space alien's demon sperm to make people >> less religious. >> >> It is my understanding that double-blind tests of hydroxycholoroqune have >> shown no efficacy for this and can't be judged an effective treatment of >> Covid-19. This is in contrast to the other links sent in this thread. >> Don-the-Con t'Rump bought shares of stock from a company in India back when >> he was met with PM Modi. Hey, wait! He violated the emoluments clause, but >> then again who pays attention to that old rag called the Constitution these >> days? >> >> The Lizard men or Saurians from outer space! This has been around for a >> while. I remember running into this about 20 years ago. It is a crazy idea >> spun by a British media sports reporter. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilian_conspiracy_theory >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilian_conspiracy_theory> >> >> LC >> >> >> >> The good doctor also believes the US government is not run by human beings >> but by creatures called "reptilians"... come to think of it ... she may not >> be entirely wrong on that last point. >> >> John K Clark >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <>. >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2567cd39-1c22-4cc8-8a5f-5a0173c29471n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2567cd39-1c22-4cc8-8a5f-5a0173c29471n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/9b55c5d9-bb85-4fdc-aa98-0e17d24f1ca5n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/9b55c5d9-bb85-4fdc-aa98-0e17d24f1ca5n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2073174265.8074417.1596133044065%40mail.yahoo.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2073174265.8074417.1596133044065%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/C2189A17-7B52-4BD1-9C7C-911DE67217DF%40ulb.ac.be > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/C2189A17-7B52-4BD1-9C7C-911DE67217DF%40ulb.ac.be?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1173494138.8519769.1596225998027%40mail.yahoo.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1173494138.8519769.1596225998027%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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