> On 20 Jun 2019, at 19:46, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Self-reference not being a formal entity, it can maintain at its unformal 
> level propositions like "1=2”.

No problem. That is already a consequence of Gödel’s second theorem. It is the 
consistency of inconsistency that I have mentioned in my previous post. Unless 
you mean “assert” or “believe” for  “maintain”. Gödel’s theorem explain why 
some paraconsistent logic make sense for machines.




> Therefore, it can look-back-at-itself in all kinds of way without creating 
> contradictions, so it is able to bring multiple consciousnesses into 
> existence, all consciousnesses having as their first (formal) emergent level 
> the level of the Self: "I am”.

No problem with this.

Bruno 



> 
> On Thursday, 20 June 2019 16:58:17 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> 
>> and every-thing (all the consciousness in the world) both at the same time.
> 
> Now that does not make sense to me, but this is because your ontology is 
> unclear for me. Your text is not quite helpful, and I might ask you to 
> formalise your ontology and perhaps the phenomenology too, to make precise 
> sense on this. It is unclear how you would test experimentally such 
> statements.
> 
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