On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:24:33 PM UTC-5, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > Another knife in the heart of CTM, IMO... >
It took several minutes of Googling to find a plausible expansion of CTM, at http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/computational-mind/ . I guess objectively that's hardly any work at all compared to what would have been needed in the past, but in the modern world it feels like that makes "CTM" incredibly cryptic. :D > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_speech > > >> A striking feature of language is that it is modality-independent. Should >> an impaired child be prevented from hearing or producing sound, its innate >> capacity to master a language may equally find expression in signing >> [...] >> >> This feature is extraordinary. Animal communication systems routinely >> combine visible with audible properties and effects, but not one is >> modality independent. No vocally impaired whale, dolphin or songbird, for >> example, could express its song repertoire equally in visual display. " >> > > This would be hard to explain if consciousness were due to information > processing, as we would expect all communication to share a common logical > basis. > But all the forms of language do share a common logical basis, according to many linguists. How is it relevant to the logic of a language that it can be expressed in different modalities? > The fact that only human language is modality invariant suggests that > communication, as an expression of consciousness is local to aesthetic > textures rather than information-theoretic configurations. > "local to aesthetic textures ..." -- would you mind recasting the sentence into more concrete terms? I haven't the foggiest idea what you're trying to communicate. Since only humans have evolved to create an abstraction layer that cuts > across aesthetic modalities, > That appears untrue. I know birds, mammals, some molluscs, and some fish can reason abstractly about motor behaviors and achieve the same goal with very different kinds of motor behaviors. -Gabe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
