Ghibbsa, It's a good approach to question a theory from within after assuming it's true... More people here should try that!
The answer to your excellent question is that present moments in p-time don't have significant durations, and I agree if they did, then they might have to have different durations in different relativistic situations, but they don't. Though the present moment seems to have a few seconds duration to us, that's actually an illusion of short term memory as I explain in my book in the section on Mind and Reality. The actual computational duration of the present moment is just what is necessary for the next state of quantum events to be calculated which is far below human perception, and far below the duration of most quantum events. On the scale of what people misleadingly call Planck time. It's just a single processor cycle of p-time. In comparison, mind expands its simulation of a present moment into several seconds duration. It is only this little trick of mind that allows (memories of) seemingly simultaneous events to be compared, put into relationships, and thus made any sense of at all. For example without this little mental trick music would just be instantaneous different sounds rather than music, because music depends on the temporal relationships of those sounds. They are seemingly compared in the present moment, but actually only memories are being compared. So the current state of the universe is computed both here and on Andromeda in the same 'Planck-like' instant of p-time, but the resulting clock time rates that are calculated depend on the whole complex of local information computations so as to make relativity come out correctly. Hope that's reasonably clear.. Edgar On Friday, February 7, 2014 4:55:02 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote: > > > On Thursday, February 6, 2014 2:09:39 PM UTC, Edgar L. Owen wrote: >> >> Ghibbsa, >> >> But it IS true that Andromedans must be doing something at this very >> present moment. That's a key insight to the theory. >> >> The fact that we can't determine exactly what the clock time is there of >> that present moment, or the fact that they might be doing things faster or >> slower than we are doesn't falsify that they are doing something right now. >> The fact that we may not be able to determine what they are doing, doesn't >> mean they aren't doing something.... >> >> After all that's also true of any two observers including e.g. astronauts >> on the space station. Do we doubt that they are actually doing something up >> there right now in this present moment? No, of course not. And the >> difference with Andromeda is only a matter of degree. thus if we can claim >> a present moment for the space station, we can for Andromeda also. >> > > OK, and note I am trying on your idea in the very way I am also > questioning it. So the question is, allowing there could be a 1:1 matching > of moments, is the idea meaningful if people in one galaxy have a big > enough moment to think some thought like "people in that galaxy right > now..." whereas the people in that other galaxy experience the same moment > as 3 years or as 4 microseconds. > > In what meaningful sense is that a shared moment? Given the real time - > and we are talking about time - is experienced totally differently. Why > aren't the realities of time and how it is completely different, more > fundamental than some since that it would be possible if we had all the > data to do some 1:1 correlation such that everything could be related via a > p-time. > > Again, note that I am questioning your idea, from within supposing your > idea is true. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
