Ghibbsa,

I'm not sure that works because it assumes there is an absolute space 
background (sort of like the aether) defined by the NON-rotating center of 
the earth. Why would that be the case? In other words what is that "hell of 
a lot faster" motion relative too, and why do we choose that frame as the 
correct/absolute one?

Edgar

On Friday, February 7, 2014 4:42:41 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 4:36:02 PM UTC, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
>>
>> Brent, and anyone else since Brent is not answering my more difficult 
>> questions,
>>
>> Take this example: 
>>
>> Consider A on the earth and B in geosynchronous orbit directly overhead. 
>> By definition there is NO relative motion whatsoever.
>>
>> Nevertheless A's clock runs slower than B's and both A and B agree on 
>> that.
>>
>> This is because A is deeper in earth's gravity than B is. Brent says 
>> "more proper time nearer Earth".
>>
>> So how could geometry possibly explain this effect since there is NO 
>> relative motion in space, therefore no STc effect. Brent previously told us 
>> that "everything is geometry" and "acceleration does NOT slow time".
>>
>> But isn't this entirely an acceleration effect, that A's 1g gravitational 
>> acceleration is greater than B's centrifugal acceleration, so that A's 
>> clock slows relative to B's?
>>
>> What is your analysis of exactly how this comes about in detail. What's 
>> the proper way to analyze this case? Is there a geometric analysis? Is 
>> there an Epstein diagram?
>>
>>  
>>
> Hi Edgar, it's been a few days since I've been on this thread and since no 
> one else has answered you I'll have a go, though bearing in mind relativity 
> is not a strong suite
>  
> - there's no relative movement, but the item on earth is moving a hell of 
> a lot slower 
>  
> - Relativity says gravity is not a force but explained by the geometry of 
> spacetime. So the fact the item is on the surface doesn't seem to change 
> that there's a geometric explanation for why it doesn't fly off at 1000mph
>
>>  
>>
>

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