On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:

>> But Jason I want to ask you a direct question, and this isn't rhetorical
>> I'd really like an answer:  If there is no all encompassing purpose or a
>> goal to existence and if the unknown principle responsible for the
>> existence of the universe is not intelligent and is not conscious and is
>> not a being then do you think it adds to clarity to call that principle
>> "God"?
>>
>
> > I consider this question equivalent to asking "If there is no elan vital
> found within organisms, does it still make sense to call those organisms
> life?"
>

Elan vital has never been found in organisms, or in anything else for that
matter, so the obvious answer is YES, otherwise there would NEVER be an
occasion to use the word "life" (except in the negative, but if every
physical thing is not X then X is of no interest whatsoever) and the word
"life" should be retired from the English language.


> > I think there is a common kernel of idea behind the word God,
>

I agree, but neither omniscience nor omnipotence are among those key ideas
behind the word God, the idea that He created the universe is closer to
that core but still not quite there; after all the supreme being need not
be perfect or infinite, He or she  (it needs to be a being, if it's a "it"
then it's not God) needs only to be better than the competition.

But calling something "God" (as Einstein regrettably did) that has no goal
and no purpose, that has zero intelligence and zero consciousness, that has
nothing to do with morality, that does not hear our prayers much less
answer them, and is not even a being is equivalent to calling something a
"dog" even though the thing can not bark, does not have 4 legs, is not a
mammal or even a vertebrate, needs to be plugged in and is very good at
opening cans. To avoid confusion I would not call such a thing a dog, I
would call it what it is, an electric can opener.

 John K Clark

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