On 1/23/2014 1:34 AM, Pierz wrote:
Yes, dark energy *is* what he was talking about. Thanks for that clarification. The original expansion is just a result of the residual inertia of the big bang.

I don't think you can look at it that way. If were just the motion, as away from the center of an explosion, then even the most distant parts could not exceed c. But if it's the expansion of space as in the FRW solutions to Einstein's equation then sufficiently distant parts are receding faster than c.


On Thursday, January 23, 2014 7:40:03 PM UTC+11, Liz R wrote:

    On 23 January 2014 20:09, Pierz <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:


        I once heard a cosmologist say that you can't feel the force of 
repulsion due to
        cosmological expansion between your fingers because at that distance it 
is
        imperceptibly small. But if your fingers were at either end of the 
universe
        you'd feel an immense pressure pushing them apart.


    If he's talking about dark energy, fair enough, although since we don't 
know what it
    is, I'm not sure how he could make that statement with confidence (about 
the force
    being there between your fingers, I mean).

    However, if he wasn't talking about dark energy, I don't understand. I 
don't think
    that the hubble flow /itself/ involves a force. That is, the contents of the
    universe are moving apart (except where they're gravitationally bound) and 
they are
    interacting via gravity and dark energy, whatever that is.... and that's 
all that's
    involved. Cosmological expansion is simply movement, galaxies on either 
side of the
    universe aren't being pushed apart by anything /other/ than dark energy, 
and not
    being pulled together by anything except gravity (as far as we know). There 
isn't a
    force of repulsion making the universe expand - apart from dark energy - it 
simply
    IS expanding.


Of course it depends on what DE is. The most common theory is that it's just the cosmological constant term in Einstein's equation. If that's the case then it's just another geometric effect of the dynamics of space. It's not really a "force", it's just part of gravity.

Brent


    WAS he talking about Dark Energy?

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