To summarize, the kings of England and Holland, like the ones of any other
nation, tried to stablish strict royal commerce monopolies but they
couldn´t because the geography of their countries.


2013/12/19 Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]>

> Here I wrote something about this: Maxism Weberism is outdated:
>
> http://nocorrecto.blogspot.com.es/2012/02/maxism-webberism-is-outdated.html
>
>
> 2013/12/19 Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]>
>
> Hi Telmo..
>>
>> Yes.
>> The question of why spain/portugal lost the first world war against UK is
>> very interesting, and I have my own conclussions that are deeply linked to
>> other events, such is the location of the civilizations: why they appear at
>> the border of land and sea, specially when this border is undefined with
>> too much flat lands, lakes, bays, islands rivers and interior seas?
>>
>>
>> 2013/12/15 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Alberto G. Corona 
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I used to say that historically, the increase of individual freedom for
>>>> good and for evil came with the availability of more liquid  goods that
>>>> were increasingly difficult to fall under the control of others, including
>>>> governments: from land ownership to urban mobile assets, to money to non
>>>> physical assets such are practical knowledge in a specialized economy and
>>>> electronic goods.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have little doubt about it. One case I'm interested in, because I'm
>>> Portuguese (and you might be too, you're Spanish, right?) is the reason for
>>> the success of the British Empire even though Portugal and Spain where the
>>> pioneers in exploring the New World and establishing trade routes. I
>>> believe they prevailed because the British crown acted as a venture
>>> capitalist for businesses interested in exploring the new opportunities,
>>> while the Portuguese and Spanish crowns remained addicted to central
>>> control. This might be the ultimate reason why we're having this
>>> conversation in English now.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Jew people know about it.  They say that the only two things that
>>>> you can carry with you trough the back door when the mob are in the front
>>>> door are knowledge and gold (and probably artistics habilities).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Even without the gold part, people underestimate the importance of
>>> knowledge. I am convinced that if you took all of the money in the world
>>> and divided it evenly between everyone, a good part of the people that are
>>> rich today would quickly become rich again. Not because they are superior
>>> in any genetic sense, but because they already know what to do and how to
>>> model reality in an advantageous way. Any serious effort for increased
>>> equality would consist mostly of spreading knowledge. Or, as H.G.Wells more
>>> aptly put:
>>>
>>> “Civilization is in a race between education and catastrophe. Let us
>>> learn the truth and spread it as far and wide as our circumstances allow.
>>> For the truth is the greatest weapon we have.”
>>> Telmo.
>>>
>>>  That shaped entirely the jewish culture and in general the one of
>>>> nomadic people.  Now we have bitcoins too.
>>>>
>>>
>>>> I think that one of the reasons for bitcoin credibility is that it is
>>>> as difficult to control as any P2P system with no central server.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/12/15 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14 Dec 2013, at 23:42, TH Kaas wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's based on just as much as any medium of exchange. It's also quite
>>>>>> convenient to use, especially for international transfers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A money is anything you trust, and which is hard to copy. Bitcoins
>>>>>> might have an added value to the fact that we know more and more than the
>>>>>> traditional banks are not playing the rule, and are hostage of 
>>>>>> corporatism.
>>>>>> So, bitcoins are more clean.
>>>>>> Although we have to be realist: bitcoins will be quickly taking in
>>>>>> hostage too, as long as corporatism prohibition exists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>  The objective value of bitcoins at the beginning was due to the
>>>>>> illegal selling of drugs which reflects better the need than the legal 
>>>>>> big
>>>>>> pharma economics. When bandits/mafia take power, illegal activity can be
>>>>>> more representative of value than legal one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder. Bitcoins reached $1000. I don't think this valuation would
>>>>> be possible without some big fish joining the market. I wouldn't be
>>>>> terribly surprised if even politicians are hedging their bets and buying
>>>>> bitcoins.
>>>>>
>>>>> If this gets to a point where we start being able to do business, buy
>>>>> groceries and so on in bitcoins, then the stormtroopers will show up for
>>>>> sure. But then it might be too late for them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, the cryptocurrency cat is out of the bag now. New ones are
>>>>> popping up, litecoin, altcoin, namecoin, etc. Namecoin is an interesting
>>>>> one, because it's goal is to generate a fully distributed DNS system. This
>>>>> would decentralize the easiest attack vector for net censorship.
>>>>>
>>>>> Telmo.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bruno
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Op zaterdag 14 december 2013 17:40:25 UTC+1 schreef Roger Clough:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  The bitcoin is an international speculative cyber-currency
>>>>>>> (based on nothing) that has been inflating rapidly in price.
>>>>>>> I would be wary of investing in it because it can drop in value
>>>>>>> just as fast as it is rising. It's probably a bubble.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVu626uOGE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
>>>>>>> See my Leibniz site at
>>>>>>>  http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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