Hi Telmo.. Yes. The question of why spain/portugal lost the first world war against UK is very interesting, and I have my own conclussions that are deeply linked to other events, such is the location of the civilizations: why they appear at the border of land and sea, specially when this border is undefined with too much flat lands, lakes, bays, islands rivers and interior seas?
2013/12/15 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> > > > > On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I used to say that historically, the increase of individual freedom for >> good and for evil came with the availability of more liquid goods that >> were increasingly difficult to fall under the control of others, including >> governments: from land ownership to urban mobile assets, to money to non >> physical assets such are practical knowledge in a specialized economy and >> electronic goods. >> > > I have little doubt about it. One case I'm interested in, because I'm > Portuguese (and you might be too, you're Spanish, right?) is the reason for > the success of the British Empire even though Portugal and Spain where the > pioneers in exploring the New World and establishing trade routes. I > believe they prevailed because the British crown acted as a venture > capitalist for businesses interested in exploring the new opportunities, > while the Portuguese and Spanish crowns remained addicted to central > control. This might be the ultimate reason why we're having this > conversation in English now. > > >> >> >> The Jew people know about it. They say that the only two things that you >> can carry with you trough the back door when the mob are in the front door >> are knowledge and gold (and probably artistics habilities). >> > > Even without the gold part, people underestimate the importance of > knowledge. I am convinced that if you took all of the money in the world > and divided it evenly between everyone, a good part of the people that are > rich today would quickly become rich again. Not because they are superior > in any genetic sense, but because they already know what to do and how to > model reality in an advantageous way. Any serious effort for increased > equality would consist mostly of spreading knowledge. Or, as H.G.Wells more > aptly put: > > “Civilization is in a race between education and catastrophe. Let us learn > the truth and spread it as far and wide as our circumstances allow. For the > truth is the greatest weapon we have.” > Telmo. > > That shaped entirely the jewish culture and in general the one of nomadic >> people. Now we have bitcoins too. >> > >> I think that one of the reasons for bitcoin credibility is that it is as >> difficult to control as any P2P system with no central server. >> >> >> 2013/12/15 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 14 Dec 2013, at 23:42, TH Kaas wrote: >>>> >>>> It's based on just as much as any medium of exchange. It's also quite >>>> convenient to use, especially for international transfers. >>>> >>>> >>>> Right. >>>> >>>> A money is anything you trust, and which is hard to copy. Bitcoins >>>> might have an added value to the fact that we know more and more than the >>>> traditional banks are not playing the rule, and are hostage of corporatism. >>>> So, bitcoins are more clean. >>>> Although we have to be realist: bitcoins will be quickly taking in >>>> hostage too, as long as corporatism prohibition exists. >>>> >>> The objective value of bitcoins at the beginning was due to the illegal >>>> selling of drugs which reflects better the need than the legal big pharma >>>> economics. When bandits/mafia take power, illegal activity can be more >>>> representative of value than legal one. >>>> >>> >>> I wonder. Bitcoins reached $1000. I don't think this valuation would be >>> possible without some big fish joining the market. I wouldn't be terribly >>> surprised if even politicians are hedging their bets and buying bitcoins. >>> >>> If this gets to a point where we start being able to do business, buy >>> groceries and so on in bitcoins, then the stormtroopers will show up for >>> sure. But then it might be too late for them. >>> >>> Also, the cryptocurrency cat is out of the bag now. New ones are popping >>> up, litecoin, altcoin, namecoin, etc. Namecoin is an interesting one, >>> because it's goal is to generate a fully distributed DNS system. This would >>> decentralize the easiest attack vector for net censorship. >>> >>> Telmo. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Bruno >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Op zaterdag 14 december 2013 17:40:25 UTC+1 schreef Roger Clough: >>>>> >>>>> The bitcoin is an international speculative cyber-currency >>>>> (based on nothing) that has been inflating rapidly in price. >>>>> I would be wary of investing in it because it can drop in value >>>>> just as fast as it is rising. It's probably a bubble. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVu626uOGE >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) 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