Hi Evgenii Rudnyi Phenomenal means physical objects as perceived by the senses. Noumenal means the physical processes or objects themselves.
Roger Clough, [email protected] 9/24/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Evgenii Rudnyi Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-23, 11:03:39 Subject: Re: Physics, Metaphysics, and Realism On 23.09.2012 15:05 Roger Clough said the following: > Hi Evgenii Rudnyi > > > Phenomena are the how physical processes appear to our senses. So > they are appearances, not the processes themselves. But scientific > experiments and measurements are not made on the appearances, they > are made on the processes. Thus the appearences areor [phenomena are > said to be "well-grounded" in the processes themselves. > > Kant spelled this out in great detail, calling "noumena" the actual > physical process which we cannot reach by our senses, and the > appearances of those noumena to the senses he called "phenomena". > That's fine. My question then would be as follows. When you talk about physical >PHYSICAL (within spacetime): Anything with dimensions, do you mean "noumena" or "phenomena"? Evgenii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.

