On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 11:15 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]>
wrote:

*> Please elaborate on the role of the Christoffel symbols that enclode the
> spacetime curvative in a gravitational field. What does "encode" mean in
> this context? AG*
>

In ordinary calculus the derivative is just how something changes with
respect to something else, but in curved space there’s an extra complication,
the coordinate grid itself bends. Christoffel symbols keep track of how the
coordinate axes are changing as you move around. Mathematically they look
like Γ*i**jk,  where **i*, *j*, *k* = 1, 2, ..., *n * and each entry of
this  4×4×4 array is a real number because spacetime has 4 coordinates. So
there are 64 slots. Fortunately symmetry simplifies that a little, there
are only 40 independent numbers.

*This is not a tensor but but it tells you how to take the derivative of
a tensor in curved space so the result is also a tensor and thus looks the
same to everyone. *


*> Can a tensor be defined as a mathematical entitity which is invariant
> under a coordinate transformation.*
>

*Yes.*

*> What is the form of the entity that guarantees that invariance?*
>

*I'm not sure I understand the question but momentum and velocity and
acceleration are all tensors, but angular momentum is not, it's just a
"pseudo tensor". That's because to calculate the angular momentum you need
to produce a cross product, and that causes an additional handedness and is
why things look different in a mirror. Angular momentum is relative to the
choice of origin. If you pick a point for the origin of your coordinate
system other than the sun, as astronomers customarily do, then the angular
momentum of Jupiter would be different. *

*> Brent says, I think, that proper accelation will not be felt. True or
> not? AG*


*If you are in freefall in a gravitational field then proper acceleration
will not be felt because it is zero. If you ARE firing a rocket in a
gravitational field then you are NOT in freefall, you are NOT on
the straightest possible line through 4D Spacetime, the proper acceleration
is NOT zero, and that will be felt. *
* John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
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