On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 2:01 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:


> *> the insufficiency involves the fact that a photon is a point particle,
> with no length*
>

*A photon is a point particle that has a wave LENGTH. In the early days of
Quantum Mechanics they called something that has both particle and wave
properties a "wavicle" but for some reason the term never caught on, I
think that's a pity because "wave" and "particle" are just words and thanks
to Quantum Mechanics we now know that some things don't fit in with either
of those words. If that seems strange and confusing it's only because it is
strange and confusing. *

*Nevertheless it remains true that a photon is a point particle that has a
wave LENGTH, and if you know the wave LENGTH of that wavicle then you can
calculate its energy, and the longer the LENGTH the less energy it has. And
if space is expanding then everything that has LENGTH will expand with it
unless there is a force available to counteract it; and in the case of the
photon, unlike our local group of galaxies, there is not.  *

* > As far as axioms are concerned, you have an unstated axiom which is the
> negation of mine, namely that Something can become Nothing, and Nothing can
> become Something.*
>

*That is not an axiom that is a theorem, that is a statement that can be
derived from the existing axioms of General Relativity. *

*> But I can point out that mine has an empirical basis, say in the
> principle of conservation of energy, whereas yours, I submit, just affirms
> magic.*
>

*It affirms the principles of General Relativity. As for magic, some
branches of magic are logical, repeatable, consistent, and describable,
there is a name for that type of magic, it's called science.  IF voodoo
could predict how variations in doll manufacture affected performance of
the curse, and IF a Fundamental Theorem Of Voodoo could determine the shape
of the "needle penetration of doll versus distress of victim" plot, THEN
voodoo would be as much a science as Quantum Mechanics. The important
difference between magic and science is NOT that one deals in chants,
incantations and crystal balls and the other deals in equations, lines of
computer code and electron microscopes. The fundamental difference is that
one works and the other doesn't.  *


> *> Einstein affirmed conservation of energy, at least locally,*
>

*Einstein says if you're dealing with small distances, less than a few
million light years, then the concept of energy almost makes sense and that
slightly fuzzy thing is almost conserved, but as the distance gets larger
the very concept of energy gets fuzzier and the approximation of that
fuzzball gets lousier.  *

*> so if it fails globally, an explanation is begging.  AG*
>

*Begging?! We're talking about cosmological redshifts that have occurred
over billions of light years!  *

*>> We've made calculations using General Relativity to make predictions,
> and observations have confirmed those predictions; hell it even correctly
> predicted what the complicated waveform gravitational waves would have when
> two black holes collide,  and it even enabled us to determine what the mass
> and the spin of those two black holes were. And General Relativity also
> predicted that space was expanding so photons would lose significant
> amounts of energy if they travel over cosmological distances. *
>
>
> *> How could Einstein have predicted that, when Eddington showed in 1930
> that GR just established that the static universe was unstable. When did
> Einstein add the CC to his equations?*
>

*As I already mentioned in a previous post, Einstein finished General
Relativity in 1915 and he knew his theory's equations said
the universe must be expanding, and he could've predicted that** 14 years
before Hubble discovered empirically that it was indeed expanding in 1929,
however Einstein did not do that because he trusted astronomers, who told
him the universe was static, more than he trusted his equations. *

*So instead of sticking with his guns and saying the astronomers must be
wrong, in 1917 he attempted to "fix" his theory by pasting on a
cosmological constant; a classic example of fixing something it didn't need
fixing, which is why Einstein called it the greatest blunder of his life.
And in the 1930s Arthur Eddington proved that if the universe had been
static then, even with the cosmological constant, General Relativity would
have done a poor job at producing it because it would only have made an
unstable equilibrium, like balancing a pencil on its tip. So if Hubble had
found in 1929 that the universe was static then General Relativity would've
been in deep trouble, but that's not what he found.  *

*> But entropy for a closed system can never decrease -- that's the correct
> statement of the 2nd law.*
>

*I know I'm being pedantic but it's actually "entropy for a closed system
can *almost* never decrease".*

*> So when are you assuming the egg is scrambled?*
>

*For the film not to look ridiculous, unscrambled must be in the first half
of the film and scrambled must be in the second half of the film.   *

*> It's unclear what contradiction you were referring to; that entropy
> could be higher yesterday and tomorrow, than today?*
>

*The second law of thermodynamics alone is sufficient to explain why the
state of the universe called "tomorrow" will have a higher entropy than the
state of the universe called "today", but to explain why the state of the
universe called "yesterday" had a lower entropy than the state of the
universe called "today" you need more than the second law, you also need an
axiom that says the universe started out in a state of very low entropy.  *

* John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
6xx

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