On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 1:11 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

*> Really?*


*Yes really, except when complex numbers are required.  *

*>  **a quantum state is a linear sum of the possible states of a
> system after measurement. Do you disagree with this definition? *


*I don't disagree with your definition but we know from experiment that
quantum objects behave differently than classical objects, therefore they
MUST be treated differently mathematically. A** spinning electron is in a
linear sum of complex quantum states in abstract 2D Hilbert space, BUT a
spinning basketball is in a sum of real directions and magnitudes in real
3-D space. Your problem is not in the manipulation of mathematical symbols,
your problem is knowing what mathematical device should be associated with
what physical trait. To summarize: *

*Quantum amplitudes are complex; classical vector components are real.*

*Electron spin lives in abstract 2D Hilbert space; classical angular
momentum lives in real 3D physical space.*

*Quantum states are abstract mathematical objects; classical vectors
represent measurable physical quantities in space.*

*And although it has some analogist behaviors, an electron isn't really
"spinning" at all, it's a completely different beast. *
John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>

akk

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