On Sunday, July 27, 2025 at 7:39:43 PM UTC-6 Alan Grayson wrote:

On Sunday, July 27, 2025 at 7:26:50 PM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 9:14 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

*> it violates the basic rules of vector spaces.*


*Only if you associate the quantum spin of an electron with a 3-D direction 
in classical space composed of three independent components, which for 
physical not mathematical reasons you can NOT do if you wish to be 
consistent with experimental results.  A quantum state is not what you 
think it is so you're using the WRONG mathematical object to represent it *

John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>


*Really? If I understand correctly, IIUC, a quantum state is a linear sum 
of the possible states of a system after measurement. Do you disagree with 
this definition? What did Von Neumann say about this? I am skeptical that 
your words imply what you think they do. I await Brent's justification, if 
he has one. AG *


*Measuring UP/DN is a different experiment than measuring RT/LT, so they 
necessarily have different bases, and by conflating them you get an 
impossible result.  AG *

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