On Friday, July 18, 2025 at 11:34:17 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:



On 7/18/2025 6:49 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:

*And the farther away it is, the greater is its red shift and recessional 
velocity. So the recessional velocity seems to be DECREASING with time as 
the universe expands. *

The second does not follow from the first.  Further away means later in 
time.  Further away is receding faster.

Brent


*Let me rephase that; first, consider the model of the universe as an 
expanding sphere and two separated galaxies on that sphere, say on the 
equator. As we discussed, it's an effect of geometry that the rate of the 
separation distance increases depending on the initial separation distance, 
and the red shift increases as well as the separation velocity. That's as 
time moves forward. Now we get the same result when we consider time moving 
backward, as we look backward in time and see the red shift and recessional 
velocity increasing. There's my dilemma. Whether we go backward or forward 
in time, two separated galaxies exhibit increasing red shift and increasing 
recessional velocity. AG*

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