On Tuesday, May 13, 2025 at 1:37:11 AM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:

@Alan. Did it ever occur to you that maybe biologists are wrong ?


STFU. Your ignorance is overwhelming and oppressive. AG 


On Tuesday, 13 May 2025 at 08:43:47 UTC+3 Alan Grayson wrote:

On Monday, May 12, 2025 at 1:42:52 AM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:

@John. Woaaaa... you discovered the obvious! Trolololololol. These autistic 
"scientists" keep doing these things since time immemorial. And then the 
general public that is unable to understand their "theories" take those 
words and use them with their normal meanings, and they end up discussing 
retarded things like "conscious AI" and "universe" and "cells".


*Since it's obvious you have no clue how biologists define a specie, first 
thing to do is, STFU! AG *


On Monday, 12 May 2025 at 02:58:32 UTC+3 [email protected] wrote:


Very nice, thanks!
On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 03:58:12 PM EDT, John Clark <[email protected]> 
wrote: 


On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 3:16 PM '[email protected]' via Everything List <
[email protected]> wrote:

*> Having fun shooting this down!*

Consciousness in AI: Logic, Proof, and Experimental Evidence of Recursive 
Identity Formation
*https://arxiv.org/pdf/2505.01464* <https://arxiv.org/pdf/2505.01464>



*The abstract says "Consciousness is defined not as subjective 
awareness..." and at that point I stopped reading because if anything is 
proven it won't have anything to do with what you or me or the rest of the 
human race means by the word "consciousness". He's just playing with words, 
redefining something in a way that no one else uses.  *

* John K Clark  *

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