Now, what do you think about this lad's claim? Looks to be a theologian(?) 
affiliated with University of Wisconsin. His claim is that an LLM, (Not a 
Neural net but an LLM!) can become conscious via recursion. I went through it I 
am open humanity stumbling about a new apsect of reality. I admit to all that I 
am highly supportive of Quantum Woo, and Quantum Woo is my favorite Chinese 
physicist! 
Having fun shooting this down!

Consciousness in AI: Logic, Proof, and Experimental Evidence of Recursive 
Identity Formation

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2505.01464


    On Saturday, May 10, 2025 at 06:31:21 AM EDT, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything 
List <[email protected]> wrote:   

 At a superficial level, biologists split the species based on how they 
externally look like. They saw that a cat looks different than a dog and they 
said that cats are a different species than dogs. But is it possible that in 
the case of humans, this division must be done by internal characteristics ? 
Given that from an external point of view, evolution considered that having 
hands and legs is enough, it didn't bother changing the external parts. 
Instead, it focused on changing the internal parts, like developing 
intelligence. As such, even though 2 entities (called by the same word "human") 
might look alike, they might belong to 2 entirely different species. Given the 
continuous problems that the inferior species designated by the same word 
"human" keep causing, like wars, economical stagnation, wokeism, totalitarian 
regimes, should the superior species designated by the same word "human" be 
acknowledged as being a different species and thus be geographically separated 
from the inferior species in order to be able to develop their proper 
civilization without being dragged down by the inferior species ?


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