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Le sam. 10 mai 2025, 09:23, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < [email protected]> a écrit : > Not only consciousness is necessary for measurement, but consciousness is > all there is. Oh, my God!, when will these monkeys learn ? > > On Saturday, 10 May 2025 at 04:24:29 UTC+3 Brent Meeker wrote: > >> >> >> On 5/9/2025 3:06 PM, John Clark wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 9, 2025 at 4:10 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> *> Are there multiple worlds with zero probabilities?* >> >> >> *I can't answer that question until you answer a question of my own. Zero >> probability of what? And if your answer is "of being observed" then my next >> question is "being observed by who?"* >> >> No, if you measure a variable A in a world it was just measure to have >> the eigenvalue Ao, then MWI says you are in a world with A=Ao with >> probability 1.0 Yet you wrote that "Many Worlds says it was in every >> state that is not forbidden by Schrodinger's Equation." The system is not >> forbidden by Schrodinger's equation to be in other states Ai; it is a >> contingent fact that it happened, in this world, to land in state Ao the >> first time it was measured. So it has probability zero of being a world >> where A=Ai. This has nothing to do with being observed or by whom unless >> you think consciousness is necessary for measurement. >> >> Brent >> >> >> *John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis >> <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* >> \0o >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> >> To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3A%2Br1Tx%2BakQObExOEjt%3DaM3kSJ0N2V%2BSzBV-Qw9vW2OQ%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3A%2Br1Tx%2BakQObExOEjt%3DaM3kSJ0N2V%2BSzBV-Qw9vW2OQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/4622e048-f9e3-4930-9807-f417a86fe526n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/4622e048-f9e3-4930-9807-f417a86fe526n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAMW2kArDrrZJ4-u6%2B8ApQNRbDwX0YeMywsQ5OfNw9Oi7sFbUcw%40mail.gmail.com.
