Thanks, Jason! This is also very helpful. Definitely gives us somewhere to look.
Not ideal for most end users, but a huge help for network support. John P.S. It doesn't always seem like it's 100% 1 to 1, either. For example, to print the item's barcode on the pull list, the variable is cp_barcode, but in Server Preferences, it's listed as current_item, which doesn't work in the template. Still SO much better than what I had an hour ago. John Amundson (he/him/his) Library Applications Supervisor, C/W MARS, Inc. ------------------------------ [image: icon] [email protected] | [image: icon]www.cwmars.org [image: icon] 508-755-3323 x1 On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 4:50 PM Jason Etheridge via Evergreen-general < [email protected]> wrote: > cs_name in particular is a weird one, because it's not even defined in the > IDL that the reporter uses. But here's a hack for figuring out what you > want in the staff client: > 1) Make these columns visible in the grid > 2) Save the grid settings > 3) Go to Administration -> Workstation -> Stored Preferences -> Server > Workstation Prefs > 4) Look for a likely candidate entry in that list, which is only slightly > cryptic. :-) In this case, you're looking for eg.grid.circ.holds.pull_list > 5) Click on that entry and look at the data in the right pane. The name > field contains the internal field name for the column. You'll still need to > append the field names you're interested in to an object like "hold". > > -- Jason > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 4:37 PM Morgan, Michele via Evergreen-general < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> To answer your specific question, I was able to get the item status on >> the pull list by using this code in the print template: >> >> [% hold.cs_name %] >> >> I hope someone else will chime in on this too, because it seems like >> there should be an easy way to find the correct variables to use. I >> usually end up digging through the code to find clues. >> >> For the item status on the pull list, this line: >> >> <eg-grid-column i18n-label label="Item Status" path="*cs_name*" >> [hidden]="true"></eg-grid-column> >> >> appears in this file: >> >> Open-ILS/src/eg2/src/app/staff/share/holds/grid.component.html >> >> so I tried hold.cs_name and it worked. >> >> Hoping I'm missing something obvious! >> >> Michele >> >> -- >> Michele M. Morgan, Systems Support Specialist >> North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 3:15 PM John Amundson via Evergreen-general < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hello! >>> >>> I'm looking over the server-side Angular print templates again. >>> >>> They use variables that look like these: >>> [% hold.title %] >>> [% hold.author %] >>> [% hold.acpl_name %] >>> [% checkin.copy.barcode %] >>> >>> Does anyone know where these variables are coming from and how to >>> generate ones that aren't already included in the template display? >>> >>> They're different from the variable structure used in the workstation JS >>> print templates. For example: >>> {{hold_data.title}} >>> {{hold_data.copy.location.name}} >>> >>> My most pressing need is now that statuses other than Available/Recently >>> Returned can show up on the pull list, I want to have the template print >>> out the item's status so that libraries can see when an item is >>> Available, Display, etc. >>> >>> Through trial and error, I've been able to print the copy status ID using >>> >>> [% hold.cp_status %] >>> >>> But this isn't very helpful for library staff. >>> >>> Anyone have thoughts on where to go from here? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> John Amundson (he/him/his) >>> Library Applications Supervisor, C/W MARS, Inc. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> [image: icon] [email protected] | [image: icon]www.cwmars.org >>> >>> [image: icon] 508-755-3323 x1 >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 8:08 AM Elizabeth Davis < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> At PaILs, we only use the Holds Pull List in the server templates. >>>> It's difficult because not every library prints them out on 8.5 by 11 which >>>> the template defaults to. We've had to customize the template for a few >>>> libraries to print out on receipt printers and even those are fairly >>>> customized. >>>> >>>> We also have a lot of libraries that will need workstation by >>>> workstation specific templates. The server-side ones would be great but as >>>> others have mentioned, the template needs tend to vary greatly depending on >>>> the department and sometimes within a department. I also would prefer to >>>> see the server side be a default, but a workstation template could override >>>> it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Elizabeth Davis* (she/her), *Program Manager* >>>> >>>> *Pennsylvania Integrated Library System **(PaILS) | SPARK* >>>> >>>> (717) 256-1627 | *[email protected] >>>> <[email protected]>* >>>> *support.sparkpa.org <https://support.sparkpa.org/>* | *[email protected] >>>> <[email protected]>* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Evergreen-general < >>>> [email protected]> on behalf of Terran >>>> McCanna via Evergreen-general <[email protected] >>>> > >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 19, 2024 4:53 PM >>>> *To:* John Amundson <[email protected]> >>>> *Cc:* Terran McCanna <[email protected]>; Evergreen >>>> Discussion Group <[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Evergreen-general] Questions About Customizing the New >>>> Print Templates >>>> >>>> Agreed - ideally we could create the defaults associated with the org >>>> units and then workstation templates could override them. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 4:49 PM John Amundson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks, Terran. >>>> >>>> I agree; I have many of the same reservations. I think workstation >>>> print templates will be a necessity if and when we decide to implement the >>>> angular circulation interfaces. I think a server-side fallback for a branch >>>> is a great idea, but we really can't lose that workstation-by-workstation >>>> customization. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> John Amundson (he/him/his) >>>> Library Applications Supervisor, C/W MARS, Inc. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> [image: icon] [email protected] | [image: icon]www.cwmars.org >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.cwmars.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=j4SWsMDXRVOGlMb-EfMRIp9IjAos-OG-ewOKBUjTNh8&m=STex9Rul5hrndhU-ZIBKgZQ0ft7gnDHihKdzGaFRDOnrwtxCwaqbqtQyiQ6Gi7ho&s=Vk_sB3M3EAhyYTWxWLNuP-_yAMI8D8EjN1wGvhwUG5A&e=> >>>> >>>> [image: icon] 508-755-3323 x1 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 4:44 PM Terran McCanna < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> PINES is currently on 3.12 so we've only been using it for the Holds >>>> Pull List so far. We had so many problems with it that we decided not to >>>> allow libraries to customize their Holds Pull List and have had to enforce >>>> a single template for everyone because we cannot maintain a potential 300 >>>> templates. >>>> >>>> We also have big reservations about the upcoming circ interfaces using >>>> them because our libraries have so many different needs. Particularly >>>> difficult will be the libraries that use different templates within a >>>> single branch - for example, different checkout templates on different >>>> workstations at the same branch based on whether a checkout is at the desk, >>>> through curbside pickup, or on a self-pickup shelf. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 4:19 PM John Amundson via Evergreen-general < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I'm revitalizing this email thread from two years ago. >>>> >>>> CW MARS is preparing an upgrade from 3.7 to 3.14, and I'm finally >>>> starting to look over the new server-side print templates. We will mainly >>>> be using the template for the Holds Pull List, but as others mention, this >>>> interface is going to be used a lot more heavily as more circulation >>>> interfaces are ported to Angular. >>>> >>>> I can't seem to find any documentation on the interface, so I'm going >>>> to repeat Jennifer's question from two years ago: >>>> >>>> *Does anyone have tips, resources, or documentation about >>>> customizing templates via Admin -> Server Administration -> Print Templates >>>> that they'd be willing to share?* >>>> >>>> >>>> My immediate need is to add the item's status to the list now that >>>> statuses other than Available may show up on the pull list. So far I've >>>> gotten [% hold.cp_status %] to print the status id, but I can't get the >>>> name to print. Any recommendations? Does anyone know how the variables are >>>> structured? >>>> >>>> My deeper concern is that the entire interface is confusing and needs >>>> to be much more robust - or at least more in-depthly documented. I've filed >>>> a bug with my thoughts: >>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/2092239 >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.launchpad.net_evergreen_-2Bbug_2092239&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=j4SWsMDXRVOGlMb-EfMRIp9IjAos-OG-ewOKBUjTNh8&m=STex9Rul5hrndhU-ZIBKgZQ0ft7gnDHihKdzGaFRDOnrwtxCwaqbqtQyiQ6Gi7ho&s=RtiJfPfNkPjo3fxv2kyGpLeRTtepB3EEviYkxNiIGjk&e=> >>>> >>>> As it stands right now, I don't foresee us giving libraries permission >>>> to make their own edits to server-side templates. There are just too many >>>> ways for it to go wrong. For the libraries that have been using server-side >>>> templates for a while, how has it been going? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> John Amundson (he/him/his) >>>> Library Applications Supervisor, C/W MARS, Inc. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> [image: icon] [email protected] | [image: icon]www.cwmars.org >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.cwmars.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=j4SWsMDXRVOGlMb-EfMRIp9IjAos-OG-ewOKBUjTNh8&m=STex9Rul5hrndhU-ZIBKgZQ0ft7gnDHihKdzGaFRDOnrwtxCwaqbqtQyiQ6Gi7ho&s=Vk_sB3M3EAhyYTWxWLNuP-_yAMI8D8EjN1wGvhwUG5A&e=> >>>> >>>> [image: icon] 508-755-3323 x1 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 11:52 AM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Terran, >>>> >>>> This is our first library to get a custom pull list template and we >>>> just set it up for them yesterday so we haven't run into issues with >>>> multiple versions of the template yet. This library is one that uses >>>> their receipt printer for the pull list so the default template wasn't >>>> working for them. >>>> >>>> Looking ahead to the circ receipts moving to this editor with the new >>>> angular circ I agree that we're going to need a way to allow >>>> workstation-level customizations. We currently haven't given >>>> permissions for libraries to edit their own templates in the new Print >>>> Templates but we're anticipating that we'll need to do that ahead of >>>> our next upgrade in 2023. >>>> >>>> Jennifer >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Quoting Terran McCanna <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> > Are you having any issues saving multiple versions of the same >>>> template at >>>> > different org unit levels? (Like the default consortium one, then a >>>> > different branch one?) I haven't tried this in a while, but I had >>>> issues in >>>> > 3.8 with saving various versions of the holds pull list. We also have >>>> > issues where different workstations in the same branch need to print >>>> the >>>> > same receipt in different ways, which doesn't appear to be an option >>>> at all >>>> > with the new interface. A couple of bugs I've opened: >>>> > >>>> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1958875 >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.launchpad.net_evergreen_-2Bbug_1958875&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=j4SWsMDXRVOGlMb-EfMRIp9IjAos-OG-ewOKBUjTNh8&m=STex9Rul5hrndhU-ZIBKgZQ0ft7gnDHihKdzGaFRDOnrwtxCwaqbqtQyiQ6Gi7ho&s=rm1T5zJL6o2ltYLv4v1bEqn1_nbr0ENc-ClmhbVm2uE&e=> >>>> > >>>> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1958683 >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.launchpad.net_evergreen_-2Bbug_1958683&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=j4SWsMDXRVOGlMb-EfMRIp9IjAos-OG-ewOKBUjTNh8&m=STex9Rul5hrndhU-ZIBKgZQ0ft7gnDHihKdzGaFRDOnrwtxCwaqbqtQyiQ6Gi7ho&s=RSF8O7TDHxlUNS9gMqYMpj6rxsGDR7uwXhsh-iVXSdQ&e=> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Terran McCanna, PINES Program Manager >>>> > ------------------------------ >>>> > >>>> > Georgia Public Library Service | University System of Georgia >>>> > >>>> > 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 l Atlanta, GA 30341 >>>> > >>>> > (404) 235-7138 | [email protected] >>>> > >>>> > http://help.georgialibraries.org >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__help.georgialibraries.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=j4SWsMDXRVOGlMb-EfMRIp9IjAos-OG-ewOKBUjTNh8&m=STex9Rul5hrndhU-ZIBKgZQ0ft7gnDHihKdzGaFRDOnrwtxCwaqbqtQyiQ6Gi7ho&s=-vdVzMEnWXCp4b30pqxchjkIsNUX8MkQjezv3knaihE&e=> >>>> | [email protected] >>>> > >>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/georgialibraries >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_georgialibraries&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=j4SWsMDXRVOGlMb-EfMRIp9IjAos-OG-ewOKBUjTNh8&m=STex9Rul5hrndhU-ZIBKgZQ0ft7gnDHihKdzGaFRDOnrwtxCwaqbqtQyiQ6Gi7ho&s=rS34XO5q1o2szZW5cC3S6YchvMJ70V1jDTJhjzncuds&e=> >>>> > >>>> > <https://www.twitter.com/georgialibs >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.twitter.com_georgialibs&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=j4SWsMDXRVOGlMb-EfMRIp9IjAos-OG-ewOKBUjTNh8&m=STex9Rul5hrndhU-ZIBKgZQ0ft7gnDHihKdzGaFRDOnrwtxCwaqbqtQyiQ6Gi7ho&s=p_Z73GwaVzNwwWW7IjD_qVD_iMlwvk1wQW07TrdVGPg&e=> >>>> > >>>> > <https://www.instagram.com/georgialibraries/ >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.instagram.com_georgialibraries_&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=j4SWsMDXRVOGlMb-EfMRIp9IjAos-OG-ewOKBUjTNh8&m=STex9Rul5hrndhU-ZIBKgZQ0ft7gnDHihKdzGaFRDOnrwtxCwaqbqtQyiQ6Gi7ho&s=wOCI8Jf_A7tgd36PCnhQlIdfBUOYJtXdxOGxij6AEa4&e=> >>>> > >>>> > <https://www.twitter.com/georgialibs >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.twitter.com_georgialibs&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=j4SWsMDXRVOGlMb-EfMRIp9IjAos-OG-ewOKBUjTNh8&m=STex9Rul5hrndhU-ZIBKgZQ0ft7gnDHihKdzGaFRDOnrwtxCwaqbqtQyiQ6Gi7ho&s=p_Z73GwaVzNwwWW7IjD_qVD_iMlwvk1wQW07TrdVGPg&e=> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Join our email list <http://georgialibraries.org >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__georgialibraries.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=j4SWsMDXRVOGlMb-EfMRIp9IjAos-OG-ewOKBUjTNh8&m=STex9Rul5hrndhU-ZIBKgZQ0ft7gnDHihKdzGaFRDOnrwtxCwaqbqtQyiQ6Gi7ho&s=n_Au32qCETcDqHF89XZTupwpwUOv4yyXzneMyeHVshw&e=>> >>>> for stories of Georgia >>>> > libraries making an impact in our communities. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 6:42 PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general >>>> < >>>> > [email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> >> Hello, >>>> >> >>>> >> Does anyone have tips, resources, or documentation about customizing >>>> >> templates via Admin -> Server Administration -> Print Templates that >>>> >> they'd be willing to share? >>>> >> >>>> >> We're running 3.9.0 and I'm trying to customize the new Hold Pull >>>> List >>>> >> print out for a library. The changes I'm currently trying to make >>>> are: >>>> >> 1. having the author column only include the $a from the 100 field in >>>> >> the MARC. Right now the contents of $d (author dates) are also >>>> >> included which isn't needed on the pull list. >>>> >> 2. showing just the last few digits of the item barcode. Our library >>>> >> prints their pull list out on their receipt printer so we don't want >>>> >> the full 14 digit barcode to display. 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